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Snarks 25/ago./2018 às 14:24
Collecting Unique Agents
Is it possible to capture and convert all of the unique agents, i.e. the story related ones? The issue I'm having is you don't have access to the mkultra facility early on, but if you knock out and then stabilize an enemy agent without extracting with him, will they count as being active/alive after the mission?

List of Agents
Snowcat
Kingfish
Peacock
Tai-Pan
Última edição por Snarks; 25/ago./2018 às 14:45
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Yotzee 25/ago./2018 às 14:36 
l think the first unique agent is Kingfish, and by the time you meet him, you gonna have the facility.

I only found Kingfish, Peacock this far. There is also Sunspot who is always captured (by event) and Tai-Pan who is a quest. They all have 3 secret perks. Dunno if there is any other agent beside them.

Probably it worth to get a list.
falloutttt 25/ago./2018 às 14:36 
yeah they will be back, i think. same like your agents can come back.

as far as converting, i converted a couple, and they became my agents. i love that part of the game very much.
Snarks 25/ago./2018 às 14:39 
Escrito originalmente por Yotzee:
l think the first unique agent is Kingfish, and by the time you meet him, you gonna have the facility.

I'm on the KGB campaign, and the first agent I came across is Snowcat at the end of chapter 1. Those names aren't familiar to me (other than Kingfish), so I'm guessing those are from the CIA campaign?
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DeepDorkFantasy 25/ago./2018 às 15:24 
Snowcat for some reason wasnt capturable during the submarine mission - after knockout he's just died, like regular enemies.
solthusx 25/ago./2018 às 17:01 
Snowcat cannot be captured, you get a dispose body after taking him down. I don't think Peacock is a unique agent, she was never referred to or interacted with as part of the story.

Sunspot is automatically captured (captured in the strategic layer, no tactical mission needed) as you progress in the main story and youhave to capture Taipam alive in a mission.

You can convert Sunspot like any other agent but I don't think Taipan ever rejoins you as he never shows up in a mission after you release him. Story dialogue suggests he's more useful to you as an informant.
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Ace490 25/ago./2018 às 17:06 
I converted Kingfish and Peacock. I'm pretty sure I captured Snowcat but had to kill him (because I reached the agent limit and had too many enemy agents in my base). Since Tai-Pan has to be released as part of the storyline you can't recruit him (however, since I'm only in chapter 5 I can't say whether you'll capture him again later on).
solthusx 25/ago./2018 às 17:44 
Escrito originalmente por Ace490:
I converted Kingfish and Peacock. I'm pretty sure I captured Snowcat but had to kill him (because I reached the agent limit and had too many enemy agents in my base). Since Tai-Pan has to be released as part of the storyline you can't recruit him (however, since I'm only in chapter 5 I can't say whether you'll capture him again later on).

Not sure if its WAD, but you can exceed the agent limit if enemy agents join during a mission (via control phrase). This is why most gamers use the control phrase option and don't bother with straightup conversion.

Regarding Snowcat, I didn't know he could even be captured. After I used take down on him he just died, no bleed out timer and no option to pick him up; only option is to dispose of his body.
Snarks 25/ago./2018 às 20:47 
Has anyone tried not shooting at Snowcat and just letting him live? Maybe it's just that specific mission, not Snowcat himself.
solthusx 25/ago./2018 às 22:11 
Escrito originalmente por Snarks:
Has anyone tried not shooting at Snowcat and just letting him live? Maybe it's just that specific mission, not Snowcat himself.

I only used Takedown on Snowcat and he still died immediately. Its like he was tagged as a normal guard instead of an agent.
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holy-death 25/ago./2018 às 22:26 
Escrito originalmente por solthusx:
I only used Takedown on Snowcat and he still died immediately. Its like he was tagged as a normal guard instead of an agent.
It's the same story with Aguirre.
Snarks 25/ago./2018 às 23:11 
Escrito originalmente por solthusx:

I only used Takedown on Snowcat and he still died immediately. Its like he was tagged as a normal guard instead of an agent.

Whoops. I meant not using Takedown on him and trying to grab him on a later mission if he's still kicking around.
Última edição por Snarks; 26/ago./2018 às 1:38
solthusx 26/ago./2018 às 1:20 
Escrito originalmente por Snarks:
Escrito originalmente por solthusx:

Whoops. I meant not using Takedown on him and trying to grab him on a later mission if he's still kicking around.

He's a story specific agent, I doubt he'll show up in any random missions outside the story mission he's scripted to appear in, same for Aguirre and Kingfish.
Snarks 26/ago./2018 às 2:04 
Story specific agents don't show up on later missions if they survive? That's a shame. I'll test it out anyways to make sure.
solthusx 26/ago./2018 às 2:28 
Escrito originalmente por Snarks:
Story specific agents don't show up on later missions if they survive? That's a shame. I'll test it out anyways to make sure.

Aguirre at least is not meant to survive the morgue mission,story dialogue after that mission always refer to him dying in there. No idea about Snowcat, he's just never mentioned in the story again after his appearance.
Snarks 29/ago./2018 às 23:04 
Ok. So I just noticed Omikron is in my unit roster. I didn't notice this the last playthrough. Is this supposed to happen?
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