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Ambushes are BS
Seriously, most are just not winnable and they are not even fair. There is no balance. And the reinforcements make it worse.
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superbit Aug 17, 2018 @ 4:39pm 
i agree that reinforcements is just OP.
I try to give my agents a smoke grenade, it can be pretty damn good as ennemies can't shoot through it, saved my ass a few times!
Last edited by superbit; Aug 17, 2018 @ 4:39pm
Black Raven Aug 18, 2018 @ 12:32am 
They are meant to be.

Just don't do combat ambush, use the flee and expose then buy new ID
MonkeyEmperor Aug 18, 2018 @ 4:47am 
`Not fair`

Who says they are supposed to be? That is the very nature of an Ambush,
Rex Regis Aug 18, 2018 @ 4:36pm 
just flee and buy a new id, i havent done a ambush since the first one your forced to do
Team Triss Aug 18, 2018 @ 4:43pm 
If you don't think your agent is equipped to fight, just trash the identity and buy a new one.

That's why they recommend agents traveling together, though I don't know if multiple agents get ambushed together.
Ace490 Aug 18, 2018 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by LoR Team Triss:
If you don't think your agent is equipped to fight, just trash the identity and buy a new one.

That's why they recommend agents traveling together, though I don't know if multiple agents get ambushed together.

They don't. I got ambushed two or three times in the beginning and then started to always send teams of two agents. Not a single ambush since then (except for the scripted ones).
Reanimator Aug 18, 2018 @ 5:35pm 
Originally posted by texasgoldrush:
Seriously, most are just not winnable and they are not even fair. There is no balance. And the reinforcements make it worse.


An ambush is an event that happens when you are needlessly careless with your agents. You are the architect of your own disasterous ambush. Also, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ambush. It's not designed to be fair.

You deserved to die.
Dorok Aug 18, 2018 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by Reanimator:
Originally posted by texasgoldrush:
Seriously, most are just not winnable and they are not even fair. There is no balance. And the reinforcements make it worse.


An ambush is an event that happens when you are needlessly careless with your agents. You are the architect of your own disasterous ambush. Also, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ambush. It's not designed to be fair.

You deserved to die.
Except that the game is totally non intuitive about that.

You spies have each an identity protected level shown by a bar filling, even when this bar is at zero, there's a chance to get ambushed with only one agent scouting.

At reverse with two agents scouting, avoid ambush is guaranteed.

The problem is it's totally non intuitive.

Once you know the rule, it offer a good management choice, scout with one spy with a risk to have to pay for a new identity in case there's an ambush (you choose identity revealed option), or scout with 2 scouts that is more resources from your roster.
Magnus Aug 18, 2018 @ 7:07pm 
Well, it's an ambush... It's not supposed to be fair.
Fridge Lord Aug 18, 2018 @ 9:09pm 
They might change combat a little bit. I just published a combat guide, check it out, maybe you will enjoy it.
texasgoldrush Aug 19, 2018 @ 9:43pm 
The forced story ambushes are a real problem, you cannot give up your ID and run.

I hate these missions, they are so unfair. More enemies start on top of you than you can shoot, including agents. I barely made it out alive on two of these missions.
Look at this food Aug 19, 2018 @ 11:22pm 
The problem I had, was you don't get a tutorial of how unfair the ambush is. under 30 minutes in the game and an agent gets caught, because I sent them alone? Oh.... ok? Thanks for letting me know.

Why even have a shootout as an option if its this difficult? Specially early game. People saying bring smoke. I didn't even know you could get smoke.
Dorok Aug 19, 2018 @ 11:30pm 
Few chance you have a smoke grenade at first ambush.

But the idea should work in many ambushes, 2 smoke grenades, 2 runs for free, and then run and evac, or a bit more to manage.

Would be tedious to equip any single agent scouting with 2 smoke grenades, but I'll try with one and if it works well, with a few more dedicated to solo scouting.

Myself I just stopped look at the option of ambush and just pay for new ID, but once you start get smoke grenades, it worth a try.
Last edited by Dorok; Aug 19, 2018 @ 11:31pm
Battleseed Aug 19, 2018 @ 11:42pm 
When is an ambush ever fair for the recipient? Do you even understand the meaning of the word? Grow up plz and learn that not everything is fair and going to go your way.
Hendumaica Aug 19, 2018 @ 11:56pm 
Dear Valhalla, i'm typiing thiis letter to tell you that you're so mean to me! I'll give you a bad review on Yelp! Your ambushes are sooooooo unfair! I wiish your mom dies of cancer!

Dear Kodiak: Git gud...
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Date Posted: Aug 17, 2018 @ 4:33pm
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