Phantom Doctrine

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ReinBork Aug 14, 2018 @ 4:56pm
GPU overheating
980ti running 85% on lowest settings and 100 on anything else. Drivers up to date. Is this the same for anyone else? Any fixes other than returning the game so it doesn't melt down my PC?
Originally posted by Cap'n Darwin:
Vsync on. The opening menus are not frame limited and were sailing over 400 FPS on my 960 card. MAny games of late have this problem when rendering 2d-ish menus/UI items with a 3d engine.
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Terroriza Aug 14, 2018 @ 9:42pm 
Originally posted by ReinBork:
Originally posted by Satoru:
Not that overheating is not a game problem

Its a cooling issue

Turn up the fans on your GPU if it is overheating. CHange your fan profile to spin up to higher speeds.

I have a 6 fan setup with liquid cooling and I just redid my thermal paste the hottest temp any system hits is 55C playing games like Assassins Creed/GTA Ultra. this ran my GPU up to 73C after 15 min. It's because of the framerate and screen tearing maxing out the GPU from what I've been able to figure out.

you don't check the framerate at all when starting up a new game? i always just assumed basically anyone with a semi decent gpu and beyond does this w/o even thinking. it's just a habit by now to hit my frame rate toggle key to check temps, frame rate, etc.. crazy how would notice the usage and heat, but not notice the insane frame rate at the same time.
ReinBork Aug 14, 2018 @ 11:02pm 
Originally posted by Terroriza:
Originally posted by ReinBork:

I have a 6 fan setup with liquid cooling and I just redid my thermal paste the hottest temp any system hits is 55C playing games like Assassins Creed/GTA Ultra. this ran my GPU up to 73C after 15 min. It's because of the framerate and screen tearing maxing out the GPU from what I've been able to figure out.

you don't check the framerate at all when starting up a new game? i always just assumed basically anyone with a semi decent gpu and beyond does this w/o even thinking. it's just a habit by now to hit my frame rate toggle key to check temps, frame rate, etc.. crazy how would notice the usage and heat, but not notice the insane frame rate at the same time.


I noticed the heat first because my fans very rarely kick on loud enough for me to hear and I heard them going full blast. Heat. I wondered what was running high so I went into task manager and saw the 100% GPU which normally sits around 40. Usage. Not that crazy that those were the two things that let me know something was up. Besides it's a Turn Based game, I wasn't expecting some crazy FPS bomb in a game where FPS isn't a big deal.
Shadow Aug 15, 2018 @ 4:40am 
There's a few facts in play here.

- Yes, no game is going to make your hardware overheat if you have a proper cooling setup and sensible case airflow.

- This game isn't graphically demanding per se, but I wager it's an unrestrained case of the opposite: the graphics are so easy to render for a high-end GPU that it can process hundreds of frames per second in the absence of any caps. That can ramp up heat just as well.

- The suggestion to underclock the GPU after a certain temperature point is valid, yet not the best solution in this case.

Whenever your GPU can easily render more FPS than your monitor's refresh rate (Hz), just toggle VSync, which caps the former to the latter. You're only wasting processing power (and generating excess heat) if you allow your GPU to render more frames than your monitor can show.

If you're expecting uneven performance, look for Adaptive VSync on your graphics card control panel. It caps your framerate as long as it'd otherwise exceed your refresh rate, and automatically disables VSync whenever the former falls under the latter (without causing the FPS halving of conventional VSync).
Last edited by Shadow; Aug 15, 2018 @ 4:44am
Caelus Aug 15, 2018 @ 5:03am 
game is by default on the absolute highest settings with everything turned on! lol

although your specs are higher than mine, mine was running just a bit laggy which i dont think is to do with its graphics, probably the weird blur effects they have, my machine generally doesnt like blurr, causes too many issues and slowdowns
CFG_Blaze Aug 15, 2018 @ 5:07am 
Vsync does help with high load, CPU or GPU. In a game with lots of shaders, UE4 spreads the load a lot and doesn't show mercy :)
xarfaks Aug 15, 2018 @ 9:38am 
The game has a framerate issue like mentioned by many ppl.
If you experience driver crashes. Or some other kind of random crashes and freezes run it windowed. Adaptive VSync seems to have little effect.
For me I have a lot less issues running this windowed at 1080p vs running it fullscreen same resolution. I have two monitors 1080p and 1440p.
Now it only crashes becouse of other bugs..... But thats a different story. When running fullscreen it kept crashing the drivers randomly. There is something wrong with the code.

This issue has been plaguing many releases lately.As an example it took some patching for Battletech to fix this. Before those patches it was close to unplayable for many ppl. And the game ignored built in VSync and the gpu forced VSync. But running it windowed forces it cap framerates for reasons probably connected to the windows low level software stack. Dont know not a DirectX person.... What I do know is that windowed mode and fullscreen mode are treated very differently by windows. So I also had to play Battletech windowed until they patched this.

In most cases this has nothing to do with heat as I mentioned in my earlier post. A GPU will thermal throttle before it overheats and wont cause a crash. Modern GPUs and CPUs are built around dynamic voltage and clock speeds. They are pretty good at thermal managment.

Now when the drivers crash thats another story......
It looks similar it will just freez maybe make one of your monitors go black but generally the system undearneath remains responsive.
Now a heat crash in 90% of the cases if it is truly heat related will triger an emergency shutdown meaning a hard reset usually followed by a blue screen and memory dump.
So unless your PC is force restarting itself (this can be caused by a driver crash too but very rarely) chances are high the crash has nothing to do with heat. Just some sort of software glitch. (I am excluding overcklocking and messing with voltage as that can cause all sorts of funky stuff)
In those rare 10% the heat crash usually hapens when too much heat gets trapped in the case and some other component bugs out not the CPU or GPU but maybe one of your harddrives or some chip on your MOBO or some PCI card like sound or what ever you have in there. That can lead to a softfreez with no forced restart
Last edited by xarfaks; Aug 15, 2018 @ 11:02am
liquidphantom Aug 15, 2018 @ 11:16am 
Turned vsync on, GPU usage dropped from 100% down to 34%.
PeliasDeWizzzrd May 1, 2020 @ 9:33am 
My overheating 'phenomenon' was because of "Post Prossesing" option in graphics. Nothing to do with FPS. FPS were stabilised at about 60 with Vertical Sinch activated (checked by displaying FPS constantly: Steam Overlay activated for the game, and at main steam page steam>settings>InGame>InGameFPScounter activated). With PP at maximum, even with 60FPS I phased 100%GPU and 80-85 degrees with all funs working hard.
With PostProssesing at low, and all other graphic options at maximum, my GPU is working with constant changing from 'peaks' of 100% to 'low' of 30% (jigsaw diagram), and GPU temperature is meintained at about 60-70 celcium (my pc normal behaviour with high-end games with taxing graphics). Still not justified by the games graphics since my ASUS R90 290 card can easylly handle way more 'aye candy' games, but its OK for my Phantom Doctrine gamethrue.
Last edited by PeliasDeWizzzrd; May 1, 2020 @ 9:34am
Dallar Feb 11, 2021 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by PeliasDeWizzzrd:
My overheating 'phenomenon' was because of "Post Prossesing" option in graphics.

That helped, thank you! Even with vsync on GPU was at 95% load and constantly annoyed me with fan noise. With PP set to low it dropped to 40%, with no noticeable visual difference.
HoRRoR Jun 22, 2021 @ 11:12am 
I'm using an RTX 2080 Ti ... when I first startet the Game my GPU temperature was 86-87 degrees.

I had to activate VSync + deactivate GSync.
It took some time until I recognized that in my case "GSync" is causing the problems.

My GPU temperature now is stable at 68 with maximum details.
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