Midaeum Strategy

[Psihara]

Hey, guys!

I hit Midaeum finally. And having in mind the insane prices of buildings, this means that champion hunting will be slowed down significantly (how do you spell that wtf).

My question is - is there any math based strategy for completing Midaeum? Do you stop progress until you level all buildings, progress for gold, stop, level all buildings again, progress for gold, stop, blabla?

Or?

[Volv]

Level your best building or 3. Plus Uni.
Whenever you can afford a new level of those gold wise do it before progressing in main game.
When you can afford level 10 in any building its time to get them all to lvl 10 to unlock tier 2.
Get at least 1 point in all good tier 2 buildings (not rage/energy ones at first)
Once you hit Felix get far enough in to afford lvl 20 in tier 2. Max armory, go full pillager and watch the loots build up. Complete Midaeum, Wait for void crystals.

In my current run I'm only a slight variation on that. Spending on most buildings as I go cause I know I'm going to have to anyway

At early Aurelius and sitting with most buildings in midaeum lvl 5-7 (as I could afford loot wise) except sawmill and stables (sitting at 0) as they have been meaningless to me income wise so far. They will both need leveled before my next big push. Currently waiting for loots the past couple of days while building store multiplier. (3.5k% atm. Aiming for 5k%)

The other thing to be aware of is the loot requirement imbalance if you haven't noticed already. Always be running raids from the top down. Never be running raid 4 or 5 if you are only at raid rank 3.

I will be spending a fair few blue stones to trade useless loots to good ones to get all to lvl 10 quickly. Getting to Felix ASAP and starting the void crystals coming in is the priority.

[Psihara]

I am currently at 1,81 Td diamonds and 1 raid push gives me only 300 Dd. Which are/will be the best buildings so I can push research in mideaum and University?

[Volv]

So 1e109 gold range? You best buildings are Ranger, Temple and HoE. Soon to be Shrine, MG, Rangers (very brief spell of MG on top).

Can see whats coming here
http://midasgoldplus.wikia.com/wiki/Upgrades#Best_Buildings_-_Equal_Cost

[Very Well]

I would at first increased to a maximum 2 buildings: University and your favorite building.
Yet we must remember that the twentieth level of each building doubles profit.
So the twentieth level of this two buildings is the best investment as for me .

If you use Raid Loot build, you need reach all 10 buildings to 10 lvl to open Tier 2 Buildings. There you will find Armory ( Increase the effects of Midas' skills ). It seems for me that Armory is very important not only for Raid Loot build but for all builds.

You can check it on the calculator
http://codepen.io/volv/full/bpwRLL/

[Psihara]

I have my fav building at lvl 43 (Ranger). I have my store multi at +4900. And in order to progress from 5e43 to 1e44 I need more than 20 raid pushes. Am I doing something completely wrong? Or is it made to be that slow?

[Very Well]

Originally posted by Psihara:

I have my fav building at lvl 43 (Ranger). I have my store multi at +4900. And in order to progress from 5e43 to 1e44 I need more than 20 raid pushes. Am I doing something completely wrong? Or is it made to be that slow?

To do more than 20 raid pushes in order to progress from 5e43 to 1e44 is not well. You are doing something wrong.

[Psihara]

What information do you need in order to say how bad the damage is? :D

[Very Well]

Originally posted by Psihara:

What information do you need in order to say how bad the damage is? :D

Often players ask to help them, but it is impossible because you have to see the figures for aid.
If you ask for help you, this will make it much easier if you do the following steps:
1) In "Settings" you put a check mark on the "Scientific"
2) You do 7 screenshots. To make them you need to open in the upper left corner departments:
- King Midas
- Champion
- University
- Raids
- Upgrades
- Glory
- Artifacts
If you show these screenshots you can always get help

[Psihara]

So, as i said:
- Store Multi - 4900
- Maxed Artifacts - but no AA
The rest of the screens: below.
http://imgur.com/a/hrm8o

[Volv]

Mostly looks fine to me. Catch up your Temple and HoE researches.

Have you done a proper loot fueled push on knowledge? Or several.

Catch up on the sitting diamond researches though. If you can afford them, do them. Worry about doubling before a reset if there are stretches where you can't buy any diamond research.

Edit - quick dump of my stats when I ended Valeria on my steam account. 2,900% multi. Heading to 5k but was falling behind Death2Gnomes:)

Diamond researches top down 31 40 34 39 35.

Knowledge - 44 Shrine, 43 rest. Idle 33 heading to 34.

Midaeum lvl 6 most good buildings. 5 RG, Uni. 0 Stables/Sawmill.

1AA

[Psihara]

Currently I am not close to double, this is why I haven't run my DIA researches.
But i have noticed that it doesn't give me any relevant boost lately.
In short - Your DIA are 1 above mine. (i just unlocked this tier of research)
My buildings are also 1 below yours. And in midaeum i am on the max that i can afford for the good buildings.
So actually - i am not falling behind, and yet - it goes slow?

[Volv]

Looks like it. Not too much more to be done. The end stretch of any hero can be pretty long.
I didn't track raid loot use but was definitely a fair few more than 20 sets of pushing at the end.
Just don't' be pushing for gold/diamonds while there's relevant researching to be done.

[Volv]

I would get your building profit research going now. Reset, wait out the research finishing, and then get back to the gold needed to do next diamond research. Rinse and repeat. Normally I end up with enough diamonds to do the last 2-3 diamond research of a set in one go. In that go I get to 3x gold cost and just do them one after another before resetting.

Then knowledge push + research bump.

Then back to progress.

[Very Well]

1) In Midas choose Knowledge specialization + by Champions skills choose 1-2-4(not 3). It will give you a huge boost by the acquisition of knowledge. You have 3.7 e30 of knowledge.
You need 8.0 e30 knowledge for Rangers Guild and 8.0 e30 for Merchants Guild to make them both 44 lvl. After that do not forget in Midas choose Gold specialization + by Champions skills choose 1-2-3.
2) You do not have enough raid loots. So your choice is Idle build. Take best idle build in this calculator https://codepen.io/volv/full/bpwRLL the bottom left
3) You have 2.4 e 113 gold. You need little more to 5.0 e 113 and Merchants Guild will be your favorite building and will make 70-90 % of all damage and your damage will increase significantly.
4) It was wrong spend 6 percent damage of diamonds for up Knowledge Production to 38 lvl + 6 percent damage for Diamonds Value 33 lvl + 6 percent damage for Critical Profits 39 lvl + 6 percent damage for Critical Chance 30 lvl. 6+6+6+6=24. You reduced your damage by 24 percent, and raised only a couple of percent. You can not teach Knowledge Production, Diamonds Value, Critical Chance and Critical Profits if the cost of the study more than one per cent of the amount of your diamonds.

I would like to add.
It is not necessary to develop all the buildings at the same time to the same level.
Some buildings will never bring income more than 0.5%. You've got all the buildings developed almost identically.

[Psihara]

Originally posted by Volv:

Long Post.

Hey, Volv.
I was wondering - while you are in Midaeum - are you using red gems to get some sweet raid loots, or you are saving reds for something later?