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DeadToast Entertainment [developer] Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:20am

Dev: Looking for more info regarding stuttering reports

Hello everybody!
Developer here. Reading through all the feedback as fast as I can. The game is currently locked to 60 FPS, but unlocking it is something I can look in to for a future update.

However it sounds like some people are experiencing stuttering that's beyond the framer rate cap. If this is happening to you, I'd like to know more about it as it's something I've never experienced on my end after testing on many different types of machines. If possible capturing a video of the performance would be super helpful!

Many thanks!

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Originally posted by DeadToast Entertainment:

Originally posted by Pixel:
Developer, this issue is most probably caused by running your camera translations in Unity's "FixedUpdate".

Because you're probably damping / smoothing the camera with fixed timescale functions that are set to Unity's default 0.02 (50hz), there's a disconnect between the rendering FPS (60hz) and the camera's position update rate (50hz).

This means that some frames will be shown twice before the camera's position is updated. This is what is causing the "stuttering" that most people are experiencing. Fixing this is easiest done by changing the tickrate to 0.01666...7, but that may cause problems with existing code. Locking the game to 50fps will sync the update rates and can help, but that may also make some people even angrier.

With my own experience with Unity, I recommend using "LateUpdate" instead with modified smoothing / damping functions.

Cheers!

You are 100% correct. Fixing this will take some work, but I have just put an experimental branch up on Steam with a temporary fix (setting the FixedUpdate rate to 60hz).

I will carry on investigating the best proper way of fixing this without breaking the rest of the game. Sorry for any inconvenience!

Edit: Current build on the Experimental-branch has a fix for the camera stutter and has unlocked frame rate.

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Josefumi

Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:22am

Feels near unplayable on a 144hz monitor

♀eimew♀ Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:22am

to late, already refunded the game

10% Butz Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:25am

Game is locked at 61FPS for me, also feels like it's constantly dropping below that but framerate doesn't change. Maybe it's the frametime, From Software games have similar issues.
Dropping resolution and visuals doesn't have an effect on performance too.

Last edited by 10% Butz; Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:27am

DeadToast Entertainment [developer] Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:25am

Originally posted by Diabolo :DDD:
Feels near unplayable on a 144hz monitor

Any way you could provide more information on the issues you are experiencing? As an experiment, do you get the same issue when turning down the graphics settings?

BearPajamaGod! Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:25am

- When playing with a PS4 or any controller and swapping over to mouse and keyboard for a moment to go to the menu to change settings or whatever sometimes the inputs will get stuck switching back and forth between the two thus causing massive frame drops.

- When playing the game itself it almost feels like the frame timing or pacing is off somewhat akin to what is talked about here. (even though its for a completely different game you should get an idea of what I'm talking about as they explain frame pacing issues.) Start at the 41 second mark.
https://youtu.be/MfCbomJW4Eg?t=41

- Whenever an achievement pops up the game will freeze entirely sometimes.

These are a few of the issues I've found thus far.

Last edited by BearPajamaGod!; Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:26am

Emi

Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:26am

I'm not sure if MICRO stutters will be visible in shadowplay footage but I can record a couple of minutes. BRB.
I also would like to point out that this is something that is indeed happens on players' "ends" as all the footage of this game I saw was smooth, silky - just flawless. The stuff I see on my end is nothing like that, it doesn't even look like 60 fps to me (although I may be a bit biased as I OCed my monitor to 75).

Josefumi

Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:28am

Originally posted by DeadToast Entertainment:
Originally posted by Diabolo :DDD:
Feels near unplayable on a 144hz monitor
Any way you could provide more information on the issues you are experiencing? As an experiment, do you get the same issue when turning down the graphics settings?

It's just horribly slow feeling, constantly feels like its either skipping frames or slowing down to the point where it feels like I hit slow motion, feels the same on all graphics settings
GTX 1080ti Ryzen 7 1700x 24gb ram

Vladimiś Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:30am

I dont really feel stuttering but game feels so slugish like its in slow motion despite running constant 60fps

BearPajamaGod! Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:31am

Let me reinstall shadowplay and I'll try to get my frame timing graph up and running for you.

Emi

Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:38am

OK. YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I GOT IT.
I just thought I'm going insane. I launched the game. Loaded first level. Started to ♥♥♥♥ around - jump, spin, shoot and stuff AND EVERYTHING LOOKS JUST FINE. SMOOTH. Well - 60 fps smooth.
But then I started actually playing and went into the level.
And I started getting that feeling again. It started to stutter. BUUUUUT not all the time.
AND THEN I REALISED
IT'S THE CAMERA MOVEMENT
WHEN "WHOLE SCREEN" THE VISIBLE AREA THE CAMERA MOVES IT LOOKS AWFULL
It's either stutters when camera moves or camera movement is not smooth.
But I'm 100% sure it's that.

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RandomDude Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:41am

Here is a Video:
https://mega.nz/#!CzAFiIjb!DNy1vbeocmK0ZKy80607uak0YynBC-zLO4t2eDTkFPI

@Beabea: This could be it.
Its really unplayable for me.

System:
1080TI
I7-4770K @ 4.2 Ghz

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Emi

Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:43am

BTW I recorded some footage but IMO it's not very useful - you can't notice most of it without having control over the game. It's takes all the "gaming" sences (I just posted cringe) to feel it.
But I went to a moment that I clearly remembered noticing a bad "stutter" and I absolutely can see it so that's something. But I can't upload it to streamable - it's too big. So lemme try to cut it first or record a shorter piece.

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BearPajamaGod! Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:44am

I fixed the game for you. Uploading two videos to show you what is going on.

Last edited by BearPajamaGod!; Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:47am

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DeadToast Entertainment [developer] Jun 20, 2019 @ 10:48am

Originally posted by Beabea:
OK. YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I GOT IT.
I just thought I'm going insane. I launched the game. Loaded first level. Started to ♥♥♥♥ around - jump, spin, shoot and stuff AND EVERYTHING LOOKS JUST FINE. SMOOTH. Well - 60 fps smooth.
But then I started actually playing and went into the level.
And I started getting that feeling again. It started to stutter. BUUUUUT not all the time.
AND THEN I REALISED
IT'S THE CAMERA MOVEMENT
WHEN "WHOLE SCREEN" THE VISIBLE AREA THE CAMERA MOVES IT LOOKS AWFULL
It's either stutters when camera moves or camera movement is not smooth.
But I'm 100% sure it's that.

That could make sense, actually. Will look in to that further. Thanks!

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