Isn’t it funny how people still hate on Chloe Price even in Life is Strange: Before the Storm?

[Lilothestitch16]

Seriously, I spoke to some people who felt that David Madsen was the better person than Chloe Price. It’s stupidly insane. It’s like they can’t handle the fact that they were wrong about her. They either A, demonize Chloe and forget all the good things that she did and B, go through mental gymnastics to justify David and his horrible actions. I’m glad Life is Strange: Before the Storm showed us what Chloe has been through. People did the same thing to Kenny in Telltale’s The Walking Dead where they demonized him and ignored all the good things that he did and went through mental gymnastics to justify Jane and her horrible actions. Plus I bet the people that hated on Chloe Price hated William Price as well and acted like she deserved to lose him in the car crash because people were saying that Chloe deserved to be abused by David Madsen and that she’s a loser that deserved every single bad thing that happened to her.

[talemore]

If we judge by metrics David Madsen graduated, had a career in the military and hired by the prescott for both private and public tasks.

Chloe price did not graduated and live on her mom and does not work legally.

Chloe is part of the Arcadia Bay's criminal underworld and the main reason why Chloe Price was killed by Nathan Prescott was because Chloe Price was threatening Nathan. Chloe Price distributed the drugs to Nathan who killed Rachel Amber. Chloe Price had no reason why to sell drugs since she had a roof and food and people who cared for her.

David Madsen is a stereotype and is the mental state that he do the work and Chloe live on him since he has a job and she doesn't. Meanwhile Chloe Price has social disconnecting with authority and can't keep a job. She's in state of mind a child since she do not communicating with the adult world. Instead her closest friends are students on the school.

David Madsen is acting as a child but it is clearly the case that himself has cognitive issues. David Madsen is stupid. Something he can't do anything about. Chloe can still grown up. David Madsen can't. He is an adult and at adult age the mentality of the head does not change. He can adapt but he will never change as a person. He take the responsibility of his life as an adult. Even if he has the intelligence of a goldfish.

[Lilothestitch16]

Originalmente postado por talemore:

If we judge by metrics David Madsen graduated, had a career in the military and hired by the prescott for both private and public tasks.

Chloe price did not graduated and live on her mom and does not work legally.

Chloe is part of the Arcadia Bay's criminal underworld and the main reason why Chloe Price was killed by Nathan Prescott was because Chloe Price was threatening Nathan. Chloe Price distributed the drugs to Nathan who killed Rachel Amber. Chloe Price had no reason why to sell drugs since she had a roof and food and people who cared for her.

David Madsen is a stereotype and is the mental state that he do the work and Chloe live on him since he has a job and she doesn't. Meanwhile Chloe Price has social disconnecting with authority and can't keep a job. She's in state of mind a child since she do not communicating with the adult world. Instead her closest friends are students on the school.

David Madsen is acting as a child but it is clearly the case that himself has cognitive issues. David Madsen is stupid. Something he can't do anything about. Chloe can still grown up. David Madsen can't. He is an adult and at adult age the mentality of the head does not change. He can adapt but he will never change as a person. He take the responsibility of his life as an adult. Even if he has the intelligence of a goldfish.

David Madsen is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bastard that hit Chloe. He really pissed me off in Life is Strange 1, Before the Storm and Life is Strange 2. Also Chloe didn’t distribute the drugs. Frank Bowers distributed the drugs that killed Rachel.

[talemore]

Chloe Price distributed the drugs to Nathan.

[Dethlane]

Originalmente postado por talemore:

Chloe Price distributed the drugs to Nathan.

Proof or didn't happen

[Lilothestitch16]

Originalmente postado por talemore:

Chloe Price distributed the drugs to Nathan.

No she didn’t. She never wanted Rachel dead.

[Crowley42]

The whole reason why Chloe got shot was because Nathan didn't pay her for the drugs she gave him.

Also, both Chloe and David are very flawed people. Chloe's father's death does not justify the hell she put her mother and David through and throwing her education in the dumpster just to go do drugs and shoot ♥♥♥♥ with equally useless people is not a particularly favorable life choice either. I don't have hard feelings for Chloe in BtS since she is a kid, but in season 1 she is an adult, and just a horrible person, plain and simple, she doesn't care much about anyone or anything. She had half a decade to patch herself up after she lost William. Maybe losing Rachel was the reason why she is so insufferable in S1, that doesn't redeem her in my eyes as a character though. David Madsen on the other hand did literally nothing wrong. His parental skills are at the bottom of a ditch, yeah, but all of the nosy ♥♥♥♥ he put the schoolkids through was very much justified. I also hated David until S1 episode 5, but when I found out that he was actually right about the drug smuggling around the campus, he immediately went from devil to angel in my eyes.

[Crowley42]

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[Lilothestitch16]

Originalmente postado por Crowley42:

The whole reason why Chloe got shot was because Nathan didn't pay her for the drugs she gave him.

Also, both Chloe and David are very flawed people. Chloe's father's death does not justify the hell she put her mother and David through and throwing her education in the dumpster just to go do drugs and shoot ♥♥♥♥ with equally useless people is not a particularly favorable life choice either. I don't have hard feelings for Chloe in BtS since she is a kid, but in season 1 she is an adult, and just a horrible person, plain and simple, she doesn't care much about anyone or anything. She had half a decade to patch herself up after she lost William. Maybe losing Rachel was the reason why she is so insufferable in S1, that doesn't redeem her in my eyes as a character though. David Madsen on the other hand did literally nothing wrong. His parental skills are at the bottom of a ditch, yeah, but all of the nosy ♥♥♥♥ he put the schoolkids through was very much justified. I also hated David until S1 episode 5, but when I found out that he was actually right about the drug smuggling around the campus, he immediately went from devil to angel in my eyes.

Why are you defending David? He was physically and verbally abusing Chloe and he even hit her. He even harassed Kate Marsh and plus she did care about people. She cared about Max and Rachel. If she didn’t care about her, she would’ve went to find Rachel on her own. Let me ask you this, why would Chloe ask Max to help her find Rachel if she was so hateful.

[Lilothestitch16]

Originalmente postado por Crowley42:

Also Based Kenny poster :Kenny:

I’m curious what this one says.

[Crowley42]

Originalmente postado por Lilothestitch:

Originalmente postado por Crowley42:

Also Based Kenny poster

I’m curious what this one says.

It means we are in agreement about the Kenny situation

[Crowley42]

Originalmente postado por Lilothestitch:

Why are you defending David? He was physically and verbally abusing Chloe and he even hit her. He even harassed Kate Marsh and plus she did care about people. She cared about Max and Rachel. If she didn’t care about her, she would’ve went to find Rachel on her own. Let me ask you this, why would Chloe ask Max to help her find Rachel if she was so hateful.

I am defending David because although he was verbally abusive, and even slapped Chloe once, she was the one pushing him into every situation. Once again, in BtS I find her behavior completely fine, but in LiS she is an adult woman, and yet she still doesn't accept David into her mother's life, just like when she was a 14 year old angsty teen. It's hard to feel sorry for Chloe in that scene at all in my opinion, but I'm sure that only comes down to the environment we were raised in, I never was hit by either of my parents but if I saw myself acting like Chloe I'd gladly travel back in time to molley whop young me.

About Kate, once again it is made clear in episode 4 that Kate was involved with Frank as well, her behaviour was incriminating and David was right to suspect her.

As for Chloe caring, sure thing, she cared about Rachel, they were more than just friends after all. Around Max however, she was always extremely selfish and emotionally abusive, Max was practically egged into every awful situation they ever got into by Chloe, if Max went out to look for incriminating evidence about Nathan without her she couldn't have found it, but it would be a stretch to call Chloe a good friend, or a good person in general when it comes to LiS. I think the beauty of the first game is that it manages to make you care about a person like Chloe even though she is so very flawed, but let's not look back on the events with rose tinted glasses and pretend like Chloe was ever kind or caring to anyone.

[Lilothestitch16]

Originalmente postado por Crowley42:

Originalmente postado por Lilothestitch:

Why are you defending David? He was physically and verbally abusing Chloe and he even hit her. He even harassed Kate Marsh and plus she did care about people. She cared about Max and Rachel. If she didn’t care about her, she would’ve went to find Rachel on her own. Let me ask you this, why would Chloe ask Max to help her find Rachel if she was so hateful.

I am defending David because although he was verbally abusive, and even slapped Chloe once, she was the one pushing him into every situation. Once again, in BtS I find her behavior completely fine, but in LiS she is an adult woman, and yet she still doesn't accept David into her mother's life, just like when she was a 14 year old angsty teen. It's hard to feel sorry for Chloe in that scene at all in my opinion, but I'm sure that only comes down to the environment we were raised in, I never was hit by either of my parents but if I saw myself acting like Chloe I'd gladly travel back in time to molley whop young me.

About Kate, once again it is made clear in episode 4 that Kate was involved with Frank as well, her behaviour was incriminating and David was right to suspect her.

As for Chloe caring, sure thing, she cared about Rachel, they were more than just friends after all. Around Max however, she was always extremely selfish and emotionally abusive, Max was practically egged into every awful situation they ever got into by Chloe, if Max went out to look for incriminating evidence about Nathan without her she couldn't have found it, but it would be a stretch to call Chloe a good friend, or a good person in general when it comes to LiS. I think the beauty of the first game is that it manages to make you care about a person like Chloe even though she is so very flawed, but let's not look back on the events with rose tinted glasses and pretend like Chloe was ever kind or caring to anyone.

Kate Marsh had nothing to do with Frank Bowers and Chloe didn’t push David. David kept demanding respect from Chloe. He honestly had no boundaries. And Chloe never abused Max. She was angry that Max left her. She had every right to be angry.

[Crowley42]

Well I just checked on the internet and apparently the "Kate" that bought drugs from Frank was a different Kate, good thing they didn't say that in the game though. I guess that's one less point on the side of David.

As for David and Chloe, only in BtS is David shown to be a dickwad, again I'm talking about Chloe in the original game here, got nothing against the BtS Chloe. Just watch the scene where David goes into Chloe's room and tell me if Chloe looks like a reasonable person who's putting the interest of others (especially her mother's) before her own. (because that is what a good person would do)

And for "Chloe never abused Max. She was angry that Max left her. She had every right to be angry." that is just plain old ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, I'm arguing that Chloe is a bad person and a bad friend and your rebuttal is "but her anger was justified"? Yeah, but acting like that IS what differentiates a good friend from a bad one, Chloe spends every scene wallowing in her own misery, balming everything while trying to run away from responsibility. She pushes people away from her at every chance she gets, Max just takes it on the chin because she, unlike Chloe is a true and honest friend, who puts up with the ♥♥♥♥ from others instead of grasping at every straw to make a scene about how rough she has it.

That's what separates a pleasant person from an unpleasant one, nobody wants to carry your emotional baggage, and the few people who do it anyway you should be very thankful for.

[Lilothestitch16]

Originalmente postado por Crowley42:

Well I just checked on the internet and apparently the "Kate" that bought drugs from Frank was a different Kate, good thing they didn't say that in the game though. I guess that's one less point on the side of David.

As for David and Chloe, only in BtS is David shown to be a dickwad, again I'm talking about Chloe in the original game here, got nothing against the BtS Chloe. Just watch the scene where David goes into Chloe's room and tell me if Chloe looks like a reasonable person who's putting the interest of others (especially her mother's) before her own. (because that is what a good person would do)

And for "Chloe never abused Max. She was angry that Max left her. She had every right to be angry." that is just plain old ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, I'm arguing that Chloe is a bad person and a bad friend and your rebuttal is "but her anger was justified"? Yeah, but acting like that IS what differentiates a good friend from a bad one, Chloe spends every scene wallowing in her own misery, balming everything while trying to run away from responsibility. She pushes people away from her at every chance she gets, Max just takes it on the chin because she, unlike Chloe is a true and honest friend, who puts up with the ♥♥♥♥ from others instead of grasping at every straw to make a scene about how rough she has it.

That's what separates a pleasant person from an unpleasant one, nobody wants to carry your emotional baggage, and the few people who do it anyway you should be very thankful for.

Chloe is not a bad person! If she was a bad person, she would’ve had her own page on the villains wiki! She’s not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ evil! And yes she had every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right to be angry! David Madsen is a bad person with no remorse! I’m never siding with David! ♥♥♥♥ David! Team Chloe Forever!

[Crowley42]

I don't mean this in a mean spirited way but you are not old enough to have the life experience to understand Chloe, and especially not David. I played this game as a kid first and am just now doing my second run and I have completely distinct feelings about both games, especially BtS. Play through them again 5 years from now.