Ashly Burch passed on a golden opportunity

[Iceman]

We all know who Ashly is right? (For those of you who don't know. Ashly voiced Chloe on Life is Strange) she was unable to fill her role as Chloe price due to her union on strike. She could have been forever associated with a massively popular game. She could have been known as Chloe when we think of life is strange.

Now I agree with some of their requests in the strike for example they want be paid for an extra hour. And a pay raise. Sounds reasonable. They also want slice of profits if the game does well. I think that last part is a little much. The strike will be over and gone one day and she will have missed out on a once in a life time opportuniy.

Here's one of articles about it

https://kotaku.com/ashly-burch-heartbroken-she-wont-play-chloe-in-life-is-1796111269

So whats your take? Ashly, Traitor or Hero?

[💚SuperMax💚]

Ashly, Traitor or Hero
I would say it's something in between, tho I'm more knee towards the first one!

[Disappear]

Ashly is credited as writer in BtS. And to me she will always be the one and only chloe Price's voice.

[RE-L124C41]

If you are a member of the union you have to stay true to its principles, which (if you are a member) should be your own principles. So, she is neither a hero nor a traitor.
And I can only speak for myself but if I think of LiS in general I also think of her as impersonating Chloe (no offense to Rhianna, she also does a freaking awesome job).

[Killerspinach]

Ok well when negotians between unions and businesses take place the unions always ask for a ton of bs so they can back off from those requests and it seems like concessions.

Nobody will care about this game in ten years. Other voice actors will care abut this strike in 10 years.

Hero.

Organize and resist. Strikes and boycoots are the only power the people of this country have.

[[GAZArts]]

Hmm, whenever i think of "Chloe Price" i immediately associate her with Ashley Burch. Dont get me wrong i think the new voice actress did a superb job but Burch is the reason we fell in love with her in the first place.

The original life is strange was a once in a life time opportunity and she took it. Also with all the roles she's done since Chloe (Horizon Zero Dawn's Aloy for example) and her latest emmie win. I doubt she's regretting it. Also didn't she work on this game as an adviser so it's not like she abandoned it completely?

[maniacal<1>]

I love Ashly Burch, will never state otherwise. She's hilarious, talented, and absolutely made me fall in love with Chloe and the first LiS. And I can't even be mad at her for sticking to the union and not breaking the line to continue playing as Chloe. However she absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ herself big-time on this. BtS gives Chloe such a bigger, more prevalent platform, gives her such a broader range of emotion and dialogue...yeah, Rhianna was a bit rough in the early bit that they obviously recorded ahead of time for the E3 reveal, but by the end of the episode she WAS Chloe to me.

As far as the strike goes...the industry offered them everything they wanted, with the one exception being the extra bonus per 2 million units sold or whatever it was, and SAG-AFTRA refused outright. They want VAs to have a bigger payout from a successful game than most of the staff who slaved over it for years. It's greed, plain and simple.

I'll admit a bias, though. I despise modern-day unions.

[DriftR]

wait its not the same voice actress? i couldnt tell the difference. im actually really surprised now. i guess its been a while since the first game for me ...

[Korbin]

maniacal<1> původně napsal:

As far as the strike goes...the industry offered them everything they wanted, with the one exception being the extra bonus per 2 million units sold or whatever it was, and SAG-AFTRA refused outright. They want VAs to have a bigger payout from a successful game than most of the staff who slaved over it for years. It's greed, plain and simple.

Well, isn't it the same with actors in movies and series like TBBT? They get millions, but not the "regular" staff, of course. Games are becoming more and more like motion pictures, so why treat them differently? Just because you don't see their actual body?

[maniacal<1>]

Korbin původně napsal:

Well, isn't it the same with actors in movies and series like TBBT? They get millions, but not the "regular" staff, of course. Games are becoming more and more like motion pictures, so why treat them differently? Just because you don't see their actual body?

Because voice-acting is not the same as body-acting. Obviously the industry can support itself without unionized VA's, as this game shows perfectly. I mean SAG-AFTRA contracts only make up less than 25% of the total labor-force in the video game industry. Not to mention if VAs get a cut, then programmers and mo-cappers will want a cut. Then artists. Then everyone. Next thing you know, we're paying 90 bucks for a game, just like the movie industry where tickets sell for $20+ and a tub of popcorn costs 8 bucks.

[Iceman]

DriftR původně napsal:

wait its not the same voice actress? i couldnt tell the difference. im actually really surprised now. i guess its been a while since the first game for me ...

Yea they are different people. The person who played her in Life is Strange is seperate from this non union new chick. I admit. I do miss the old voice. Only because that's the only one I am used too. Only one I became familar with. She couldn't do the voice again due to her union on strike. They even considered not making the game at all because Ashely couldn't voice her. I like her but I love the game even more.This new chick nailed the voice.

At first you can tell the difference in their voices. It's easily passed though. I noticed it right away. Then as the game went on I became more used to the new girl. Don't get me wrong. The new girl is very very good.

I bet Ashely half expected the game not to go through. As much I want support people on a strike. They could very easily get other people if they wanted too. As the hiring of the non union voice actor shows. I'm sure after the strike is over. Ashely will have tons of jobs offers but no new games in recent memory is powerful as this one.

[Korbin]

maniacal<1> původně napsal:

Because voice-acting is not the same as body-acting. Obviously the industry can support itself without unionized VA's, as this game shows perfectly. I mean SAG-AFTRA contracts only make up less than 25% of the total labor-force in the video game industry. Not to mention if VAs get a cut, then programmers and mo-cappers will want a cut. Then artists. Then everyone. Next thing you know, we're paying 90 bucks for a game, just like the movie industry where tickets sell for $20+ and a tub of popcorn costs 8 bucks.

Hm, I guess you can't compare LIS to voice acting in general. LIS is the first game I wanted to know more about the VAs, I never cared before.
25%? Really? Man, this union has no leverage at all.

[Arash The Great]

But what i fear is hannah telle ( voice actor of max ) is also a member of sag aftra ... I hope she will voice max in farewell episode

[Korbin]

Arash Price původně napsal:

But what i fear is hannah telle ( voice actor of max ) is also a member of sag aftra ... I hope she will voice max in farewell episode

I'm pretty sure she won't. There is not a single VA from the first game.

[Arash The Great]

Korbin původně napsal:

Arash Price původně napsal:

But what i fear is hannah telle ( voice actor of max ) is also a member of sag aftra ... I hope she will voice max in farewell episode

I'm pretty sure she won't. There is not a single VA from the first game.

True ... maybe I'm just a little optimistic :P

[Iceman]

Korbin původně napsal:

maniacal<1> původně napsal:

Because voice-acting is not the same as body-acting. Obviously the industry can support itself without unionized VA's, as this game shows perfectly. I mean SAG-AFTRA contracts only make up less than 25% of the total labor-force in the video game industry. Not to mention if VAs get a cut, then programmers and mo-cappers will want a cut. Then artists. Then everyone. Next thing you know, we're paying 90 bucks for a game, just like the movie industry where tickets sell for $20+ and a tub of popcorn costs 8 bucks.

Hm, I guess you can't compare LIS to voice acting in general. LIS is the first game I wanted to know more about the VAs, I never cared before.
25%? Really? Man, this union has no leverage at all.

To me acting in a movie is slighty different then voice acting. Dev's put in a ton of cash for a game to progress. The voice actors really didn't think of the storyline or the art etc. Yet they'll get a piece of future sales as if they had. To me I think movie actors put in a tiny bit more work than voice actors.

I really really wish she had done this game. People say who'll care about this game in 10 years? That's like saying who'll care about Dragon Age in 10 years. New and old fans, along with current are still there talking about it. She could been forever associated with Chloe. Now it's like they have two actors for same person.

Maybe this new girl will be even better. I know they actually considered not making this game when she turned down the role. I want her to be voice actor but I can live with it, if she's not.