LiS Theory [SPOILERS for LiS 1 and BtS]

[Rookie]

Seeing how the second episode has some inconsistency compared to "the original timeline of LiS" a lot of prople made some theories, and one in particular got me thinking:

What if the original game is only one of the possible endings of this prequel?

The prequel states there are "multiple endings" so it means it doesn't necessarily have to end with Rachel and Chloe dying. Some endings might include Rachel&Chloe staying alive, or them leaving Arcadia Bay, or Chloe not being definitely expelled from Blackwell but only suspended or even Joyce breaking up with David depending on how you reply in the parking lot.

But I wanna go further into this theory:
What if at the end of the first game Max kept her powers?

In the "Sacrifice Chloe" ending, Joyce gives Max the photos, and some might include pics of young Max.
If she time jumps she could try influencing Chloe or Rachel and that'd lead to a different past in which both can still be saved
And that's the story of Before the Storm.
I somehow believe that could be it, in fact, it'd be interesting if that's what the bonus episode "Farewell" is about.

What do you think?

[Enigma]

Well Before the Storm is set 3 years before the events of the first game, so none of them are going to die in Before the Storm. And it's only going to follow them for the first 3 days from when they first met.

Max wont be able to influence Chloe and/or Rachel in different ways, because Max isn't around at this time, she's currently in Seattle. So if she went back, she would just end up back in Seattle.

What is clear, is the whole story of these games are in fact based around the play The Tempest by Shakespear.

I have a totally different theory that I posted on another post. That Rachel has special powers, as we can see from playing the first two episodes so far. And it is Rachel that gave Max her rewind powers, to bring Chloe and Max together again, so Max can help Chloe to find Rachel, to then find out who it was that killed her. And the storm itself is created by Rachel, so the correct ending was to Sacrifice Chloe.

So when it comes to the Farewell episode, we will all probably try to use the rewind to see which Max it is we are playing as, but it wont allow us, so making us think we are the Max before the powers. But in fact, it wont be. As this will be a Max who will be saying "Good bye" to Chloe in a much better way than she did the first time, because Max will have gone back and changed things, going on from what they have found out. So Jefferson will not make it to Blackwell. and Rachel wont end up being killed.

So the game will probably end with Max being back in Seattle without the powers, and Chloe and Rachel being together on the West Coast. They will probably do the thing with picture's changing from one thing to the other, like with the first game, to show us all this at the end.

[Rookie]

Originally posted by Enigma:

Well Before the Storm is set 3 years before the events of the first game, so none of them are going to die in Before the Storm. And it's only going to follow them for the first 3 days from when they first met.

Max wont be able to influence Chloe and/or Rachel in different ways, because Max isn't around at this time, she's currently in Seattle. So if she went back, she would just end up back in Seattle.

What is clear, is the whole story of these games are in fact based around the play The Tempest by Shakespear.

I have a totally different theory that I posted on another post. That Rachel has special powers, as we can see from playing the first two episodes so far. And it is Rachel that gave Max her rewind powers, to bring Chloe and Max together again, so Max can help Chloe to find Rachel, to then find out who it was that killed her. And the storm itself is created by Rachel, so the correct ending was to Sacrifice Chloe.

So when it comes to the Farewell episode, we will all probably try to use the rewind to see which Max it is we are playing as, but it wont allow us, so making us think we are the Max before the powers. But in fact, it wont be. As this will be a Max who will be saying "Good bye" to Chloe in a much better way than she did the first time, because Max will have gone back and changed things, going on from what they have found out. So Jefferson will not make it to Blackwell. and Rachel wont end up being killed.

So the game will probably end with Max being back in Seattle without the powers, and Chloe and Rachel being together on the West Coast. They will probably do the thing with picture's changing from one thing to the other, like with the first game, to show us all this at the end.

No one is gonna die of course, but we already know from the first game Rachel gets eventually drugged and overdosed by Nathan. So assuming there are multiple endings as I said, in at least one ending that happens and it leads to the events of the Dark Room

I wasn't really talking of Max influencing Chloe or Rachel in this period, as you said she's in Seattle, but she has all the pictures of when she was still in Arcadia Bay with Chloe and William was still alive, and she could potentially try to mess around with time again
After all, ever since she gained rewind she kept her powers in the photo jump and in the Alternate Timline, so there's no way Sacrificing Chloe would then revoke her powers, she could have kept them

[Jeckenn]

Do we really know that Nathan drugged Rachel? Jefferson is a f'ing psychopathic lier and we know that for a fact because he tries to lie to Max about killing Chloe and Nathan, he quickly changes what he says about Nathan killing Chloe but he does say it proving he is a liar.

So he could have easily also lied about Nathan being the one of OD'ed Rachel, because if he did it he likely felt guilty about it because you could also tell he fell in love with Rachel Amber.

[Rookie]

Originally posted by Jeckenn:

Do we really know that Nathan drugged Rachel? Jefferson is a f'ing psychopathic lier and we know that for a fact because he tries to lie to Max about killing Chloe and Nathan, he quickly changes what he says about Nathan killing Chloe but he does say it proving he is a liar.

So he could have easily also lied about Nathan being the one of OD'ed Rachel, because if he did it he likely felt guilty about it because you could also tell he fell in love with Rachel Amber.

In the "Sacrifice Chloe" ending you can clearly see that after shooting Chloe in the bathroom he is interrogated and he admits his crime, leading to Mr. Jefferson to be arrested too
I have no doubts Nathan did it

[Sheeperhino]

Originally posted by Rookie:

Originally posted by Jeckenn:

Do we really know that Nathan drugged Rachel? Jefferson is a f'ing psychopathic lier and we know that for a fact because he tries to lie to Max about killing Chloe and Nathan, he quickly changes what he says about Nathan killing Chloe but he does say it proving he is a liar.

So he could have easily also lied about Nathan being the one of OD'ed Rachel, because if he did it he likely felt guilty about it because you could also tell he fell in love with Rachel Amber.

In the "Sacrifice Chloe" ending you can clearly see that after shooting Chloe in the bathroom he is interrogated and he admits his crime, leading to Mr. Jefferson to be arrested too
I have no doubts Nathan did it

Well, we never get it really answered though. We see a picture of him getting arrested and interrogated but we don´t know what he´s telling them. That´s the thing with LiS in general, we are never told the full story; there is always enough room for various speculations.
Honestly, I like to think that he did not overdose Rachel (instead, he might have just witnessed it), at least he definitely did not do it on purpose. The last theory goes conform with Jefferson´s answer. (Isn´t it weird though that Nathan´s problem was that he always underdosed the girls? Kate was underdosed and Chloe even more, she probably woke up after only a couple of minutes.)
Jefferson says that Nathan was lusting after Rachel (for which we bascially have no proof except Jefferson´s statement), wanted to impress Jefferson and as a consequence gave her an overdose (`"the dumbass gave her an overdose"). But considering that all of this is coming out of Jefferson´s mouth, who lies and manipulates all the time, it´s not saying much. He definitely is planning to use Nathan as a scapegoat and could just tell Max how he is planning to make everything appear later on when the police starts investigating the cases.

Some things to keep in mind:
1. Nathan acts happy, surprised and relieved when he mistakes Max for Rachel. Relieved as in: Rachel? You´re not dead, you´re alright and alive? I´m so glad to see you.
(Also he draws disturbing images of crazy eyes and black holes and repeatedly writes "Rachel in the Dark Room". Just like someone who experienced something heavily disturbing and traumatic would. Of course that doesn´t mean that he didn´t hold the syringe when she died, but it shows that he felt awful about it and hasn´t really processed the event yet. So, yeah, he probably witnessed her death.)
2. The photograph of Nathan lying on top of a dead Rachel at the junkyard. I highly doubt that he posed deliberately for that. I think, after Rachel´s overdose (whoever gave it to her), Jefferson also dosed Nathan and staged the shot. I´d assume because Nathan was scared and started freaking out, panicked. Who knows what happend when Nathan woke up again, maybe Jefferson told him that he had a bad dream and that Rachel escaped.
Also: Jefferson was Rachel´s lover and considering how much alcohol and how many drugs she and Chloe consumed, it could very well be that her tolerance was higher than the other victims´s. She looks a lot more awake and concious in her photos, even angry. That could simply mean that she had to die because she recognized Nathan and most importantly Jefferson. The thing with Jefferson being her lover gives him also more of a motive to actually murder her. Rachel could have recognized him simply by his voice or his aftershave and boom, she signed her own death sentence.

Edit:
With all of that said, I´m thinking it could also very well be that Jefferson somehow manipulated Nathan into thinking that he did kill Rachel. (Like Nathan underdosed her again and when Nathan left or wasn´t looking Jefferson injected the overdose. Later Jefferson tells Nathan that HE accidentally killed her and Nathan´s mental health issues get worse at the thought of being a murderer.)
Like I said, there are many possibilities.

Edit 2:
I think it would be a great idea and twist if the "Farewell" episode would deal with potentially changing the story earlier on. It will play take place some time before BtS, before Max moves away, so the whole butterfly effect thing would be even more amazing. Like, you do something when Chloe and Max are still preteens and the future takes on an entirely different turn. I like that idea a lot! And it´s possible and wouldn´t break with the canon, so why not? ;)

[Gats]

Originally posted by Rookie:

Seeing how the second episode has some inconsistency compared to "the original timeline of LiS" a lot of prople made some theories, and one in particular got me thinking:

What if the original game is only one of the possible endings of this prequel?

The prequel states there are "multiple endings" so it means it doesn't necessarily have to end with Rachel and Chloe dying. Some endings might include Rachel&Chloe staying alive, or them leaving Arcadia Bay, or Chloe not being definitely expelled from Blackwell but only suspended or even Joyce breaking up with David depending on how you reply in the parking lot.

But I wanna go further into this theory:
What if at the end of the first game Max kept her powers?

In the "Sacrifice Chloe" ending, Joyce gives Max the photos, and some might include pics of young Max.
If she time jumps she could try influencing Chloe or Rachel and that'd lead to a different past in which both can still be saved
And that's the story of Before the Storm.
I somehow believe that could be it, in fact, it'd be interesting if that's what the bonus episode "Farewell" is about.

What do you think?

I was just thinking about this. Considering the original game was about time travel but the ability was removed in BTF, yet the player traveled back in time to Chloe. What if the whole game is our time travel to change the future and it might lead into a 3rd season?