Life is Strange: Before the Storm

Life is Strange: Before the Storm

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NvrKill Jul 5, 2018 @ 4:27am
Chloe, Rachel and Chloes Dad Alive?
Hello Life is Strange Community,

I know this is the discussion forum for Life is Strange: Befor the Storm. But I would like to initiate a discussion.

So what would be happen if Life is Strange 1 and Life is Strange: Befor the Storm is played in an alternative time line? So what is if Max get the Power to transport not only her selfe rather some pepole asswell? What would happen if Chloe knowes that her father is alive in a outher Time Line? What would she do with Rachel?

Thats my discussion questions.

I break down my head about it since Life is Strange 2 is announced.

Whats your thoughts about this questions?

I would be glad if someone would discuss with me about this topic?
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CorditeBurn Jul 5, 2018 @ 10:25am 
Anything is potentially possible within the LIS universe.

When LIS was completed, DONTNOD said the Max & Chloe story was over and many fans didn't want anything new that would spoil the experience, but we did all want more.

Many poeple keep saying, 'but we know rachel is dead' ' but in truth, we don't for sure. We know something was dead and covered in her clothes, but that doesn't prove is was her. I can't get out of my head how we see Chloe get shot and killed in the opening scene, run over by a train, shot in the head and depending on your choices, shot by Max. But fans still consider her alive.

I think Deck9 did an amazing job with BTS and I feel this proved that there is so much more that could be told about the Max & Chloe story and the LIS universe that would make people want to replay both LIS & BTS with whole new experience and view.

I think there is massive potential for more story and depth, not only as Max or Chloe, but maybe as Nathan with a whole new story about his family with Max & Chloes story happening in the background. There are so many possibilities there are to many to list here but I really hope Square Enix give Deck9 or Dontnod a chance to come up with a few draft ideas and pick one to go with. It would be such a waste to just end it.

Captain Spirit was ok, because it was free. but I can't imagine investing my time or money in it at this point if that is what LIS2 is going to be.

I like the idea that Max's powers evolve further, playing through alternate timelines, potential stories of how Chloes dads accident may not have actually been an accident and they go on a mission to find the truth. As i've said, there is to much potential to waste.
Firewalk Jul 7, 2018 @ 9:34am 
My thoughts on this? Look into fanfiction. Plenty of them out there.

You are most likely never gonna get another official game featureing those characters beyond mere cameos or text-only mentions.
nihilistninja Jul 7, 2018 @ 10:37am 
BtS and LiS didn't happened in different realities, the final scene of BtS makes that clear and that Rachel doesn't escape her fate.

Let's see if I got your idea right, you want to see what would happen if you replace Max's power with the ability to move herself and others to alternate realities?

That would make for an even darker story than the game, Max would be unable to reverse anything but would be able to move to realities where events happened differently, for example she wouldn't be able to save Chloe in the bathroom but could travel to a reality where Chloe survived or things happened a few minutes later so she could interfer.

I think this change would actually make things more miserable for Max as she is unable to save anyone, just escape to another reality and save a different version of them and leaving their corpse and the previous reality behind.

Originally posted by CorditeBurn:
Many poeple keep saying, 'but we know rachel is dead' ' but in truth, we don't for sure. We know something was dead and covered in her clothes, but that doesn't prove is was her. I can't get out of my head how we see Chloe get shot and killed in the opening scene, run over by a train, shot in the head and depending on your choices, shot by Max. But fans still consider her alive.

The developers of LiS have stated definitively that Rachel is dead and that the reason her decomposing body wasn't shown in game was for rating reasons and that the don't agree with the theories that Rachel survives, I'll link the article but somehow I doubt it would change your opinion.

https://www.player.one/life-strange-episode-5-devs-talk-rachel-amber-and-chloes-complex-relationship-tease-482294
Dethlane Jul 7, 2018 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by Sauron der Daberi:
So what would be happen if Life is Strange 1 and Life is Strange: Befor the Storm is played in an alternative time line? So what is if Max get the Power to transport not only her selfe rather some pepole asswell? What would happen if Chloe knowes that her father is alive in a outher Time Line? What would she do with Rachel?
1. They are in the same timeline. If you mean both of them taking place in another reality, well then it would've been mostly (if not completely) different story.
2. That would've required the photo to picture a moment in life of all "jump participants". Or a serious rework of Max's power.
3. Not sure what you mean by that. Chloe gets aware of alternate realities after Max jumps back into Warren's photo. And in "Bill-is-alive" timeline she gets into accident and doesn't meet Rachel.

Originally posted by CorditeBurn:
Many poeple keep saying, 'but we know rachel is dead' ' but in truth, we don't for sure. We know something was dead and covered in her clothes, but that doesn't prove is was her.
It is proved. Chloe's reaction to finding the body and, most importantly, police verifying it's Rachel in "Max-to-SF" timeline. And if that's not enough, devs stated that Rachel is dead.

Originally posted by CorditeBurn:
I can't get out of my head how we see Chloe get shot and killed in the opening scene, run over by a train, shot in the head and depending on your choices, shot by Max. But fans still consider her alive.
Chloe getting shot by Nathan is cancelled thanks to Max's rewind power. She doesn't get run over by train if you (Max) are quick enough. And even if train gets too close to her or she shoots herself, Max rewinds back. Her getting shot by Jerkerson is cancelled when Max jumps to Warren's photo and convinces Chloe to go with her to safety. So Chloe is alive throughout LiS events, thanks to Max. She is only dead for those who picked BAY ending.
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NvrKill Jul 8, 2018 @ 12:21am 
I watched an vidoe and there was the disscussion aboutthe powers in LiS and BtS so Max gat the reversal power with her photos, Rachel had and stripped down variant of the siren power (we saw it in the forest szene) in LiS Rachel gat the undead communication power so what ever hapens in LiS2 Rachel will be there as an ghost or human. Thats my thoughts about the powers of Max and Rachel. In LiS2 could it be possible that Chloe also gets powers like flame walker or some thing else. So in the AAoCS we get the information that Captian Spirit gat Psy powers. So I think now the howl univers from LiS is completle strange and makes all posible xD I think thats why we all get hyped of LiS2 :)

Btw. I was so happy to read so many other and partly agreeing comments.
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CorditeBurn Jul 15, 2018 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by nihilistninja:
The developers of LiS have stated definitively that Rachel is dead and that the reason her decomposing body wasn't shown in game was for rating reasons and that the don't agree with the theories that Rachel survives, I'll link the article but somehow I doubt it would change your opinion.

https://www.player.one/life-strange-episode-5-devs-talk-rachel-amber-and-chloes-complex-relationship-tease-482294
:LIS_butterfly:

I hadn't seen that article and didn't know that was the reason, just that we hadn't actualy seen the body. confirmed is confirmed. I gues a proper sequal to LIS is becoming less and less probable.
nihilistninja Jul 15, 2018 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by CorditeBurn:
Originally posted by nihilistninja:
The developers of LiS have stated definitively that Rachel is dead and that the reason her decomposing body wasn't shown in game was for rating reasons and that the don't agree with the theories that Rachel survives, I'll link the article but somehow I doubt it would change your opinion.

https://www.player.one/life-strange-episode-5-devs-talk-rachel-amber-and-chloes-complex-relationship-tease-482294
:LIS_butterfly:

I hadn't seen that article and didn't know that was the reason, just that we hadn't actualy seen the body. confirmed is confirmed. I gues a proper sequal to LIS is becoming less and less probable.

Wow, you're on a very short list of people willing to change their mind when confronted with evidence - at least online anyway.

My apologies for making the point the way I did, I had replied to a similar comment you made in a different topic with the same article and quoted the relevant part but assumed you ignored it or didn't want to accept it when I saw you posting the same thing here.

If by 'proper' sequel you mean a game directly following LiS with Max, Chloe and company returning, I don't think that was ever in the cards from the main games. DONTNOD seem pretty sincere in their statement that Max and Chloe's story is finished, so you could only hope for such a game from a secondary team as was done with BtS.
CorditeBurn Jul 15, 2018 @ 2:36pm 
To be honest, I probably 'marked all as read', as I'm fickle in following too many threads to give them the time they deserve, so the fault is mine.

As for 'proper' sequel, this is difficult. I would agree that the Max & Chloe story is over, and it would be wrong to add anything after the original endings, but I would like to see more max & Chloe, or something along the lines of Before the storm that embellishes on the original story.

The bit I find difficult is that to me LIS is Max & Chloe, so if they make another game, it shouldn't be called LIS2 without them (or some of the main characters), it should be called something else. So if LIS2 is a continuation of Captain Spirit, it should just be called Captain Spirit.

On the other hand, there are clues that Captain Spirit is a side story of the father and son of a victim of Mark Jefferson, so maybe LIS2 is more about his story in the LIS universe along with other main characters. So I'm not sure, I don't want to pay to watch a drunk single father beat on his kid, but I could understand releasing this to build context to a backstory about other characters in the original story in prep for LIS2. for now though, I will hold off LIS2 until I know what it is going to be.
nihilistninja Jul 15, 2018 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by CorditeBurn:
To be honest, I probably 'marked all as read', as I'm fickle in following too many threads to give them the time they deserve, so the fault is mine.

As for 'proper' sequel, this is difficult. I would agree that the Max & Chloe story is over, and it would be wrong to add anything after the original endings, but I would like to see more max & Chloe, or something along the lines of Before the storm that embellishes on the original story.

The bit I find difficult is that to me LIS is Max & Chloe, so if they make another game, it shouldn't be called LIS2 without them (or some of the main characters), it should be called something else. So if LIS2 is a continuation of Captain Spirit, it should just be called Captain Spirit.

On the other hand, there are clues that Captain Spirit is a side story of the father and son of a victim of Mark Jefferson, so maybe LIS2 is more about his story in the LIS universe along with other main characters. So I'm not sure, I don't want to pay to watch a drunk single father beat on his kid, but I could understand releasing this to build context to a backstory about other characters in the original story in prep for LIS2. for now though, I will hold off LIS2 until I know what it is going to be.

I've only read a little about the leaked/data-mined information on LiS 2 as I didn't want to be spoiled and I've got a couple of guesses from a couple of hints in TAACS.

Chris' mum attended Blackwell but that would have been long before Jefferson was teaching there and judging by the estimated ages of Chris' parents (mid 30's) means that they're probably less than a decade younger than Jefferson themselves. As they attended college together and got married soon after I'm not sure there's a timeline for Jefferson to meet and assault Chris' mum, nor do I think that DONTNOD would waste time making Jefferson a real plot point again.

The main character is almost certainly one of the neighbours, more than likely the older teen. Chris doesn't have any powers and only plays the role of a minor NPC in the neighbours' story.

Apparently the game will read existing save files from LiS for some purpose, although I'm not expecting much more than an Easter egg about what happened to Arcadia Bay, clueing you into the ending you chose and what Max might have been up to the last 3 years.

My guesses on the sequel are more around the newspaper on the dining table in CS about the unexplained deaths a few months prior. I'm thinking the game will be a bit of a reverse on Max and Chloe's dynamic where the player will control the more sensible older brother while the more rebellious younger brother will have developed a power and kiled a cop after seeing someone important to him shot. The player will be more tasked with protecting and guiding the younger brother and keeping him from going wild with his new abilities.


In any case I don't think Chris and CS are going to be major parts of LiS2, it felt a bit more like a way of raising some hype and advertising the new game with a bit of a look at the new engine, graphics and gameplay than a prologue to the events of the new game.
Ogami Jul 16, 2018 @ 12:50am 
Originally posted by nihilistninja:

Chris' mum attended Blackwell but that would have been long before Jefferson was teaching there and judging by the estimated ages of Chris' parents (mid 30's)

Actually its said ingame in CS, Emily was 28 when she died and she was the same age as her husband. She attended Blackwell in 2004 when she was 16. Chris father should be 30/31 at most in Captain Spirit.
I dont think that there would be any connection to Jefferson at all, the book from him she had was from 1995, she was like 9 at the time. She just collected books about art.
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