BTS Hell is empty-- good or bad?

[tobeszs]

I've heard fairly mixed opinions on the final episode of the game. Some really enjoyed it, and others hated it even more than the ending to the first game. Personally, while i did find it to be the weakest of the three epsiodes, with it's slow pacing and somewhat inconclusive ending, I still thought that it was on the whole a fairly enjoyable, well crafted expreience. From what i hear, i think a lot of people were expecting Chloe to transition more, with the final episode having a darker tone to it, rather than the lighter one than we ended up with. I agree the pacing could have been handled better, and that the ending did feel a little sudden and underwhelming, but considering the episode also had some of the best character interactions in the series, I'm not too bothered, what about you?

[Krizhni Chizo]

It all depends what kind of person you are.. I mean, are you expecting too much from a game that is not developed by original developers for original game? If you expected too much of course you won't like the ending. I'm not too bothered as well so I guess we're on the same page. It's not like a wow ending but it's not bad as well.

[Deusuum]

It was a little bit of a disappointment, mainly because Deck 9 were doing an amazing job with the first two episodes. And with rumors about "Hell is Empty" being cut and changed it is not surprising. I try to look at the (falsely?) positive side of this situation and hope for some revelations about Chloe, Max and Rachel from the second season of LiS. We'll see.

[Krizhni Chizo]

Originally posted by Deusuum:

It was a little bit of a disappointment, mainly because Deck 9 were doing an amazing job with the first two episodes. And with rumors about "Hell is Empty" being cut and changed it is not surprising. I try to look at the (falsely?) positive side of this situation and hope for some revelations about Chloe, Max and Rachel from the second season of LiS. We'll see.

So EP3 is completly different? Is that what you want to say? I had a feeling that it is very short. They said EP3 will be longest episode. It seems like shortest to me. I played EP1 and EP2 for hours.EP3 was kinda boring tbh.

[Deusuum]

Originally posted by Drunk Carl XD:

So EP3 is completly different? Is that what you want to say?

Yes. Short, unpolished, rushed, abrupt. It seems it was supposed to be more of everything, and I don't believe that after polished and emotional storytelling in the first two episodes suddenly Deck 9 fired all the talented devs and gave us this.

[Krizhni Chizo]

Originally posted by Deusuum:

Originally posted by Drunk Carl XD:

So EP3 is completly different? Is that what you want to say?

Yes. Short, unpolished, rushed, abrupt. It seems it was supposed to be more of everything, and I don't believe that after polished and emotional storytelling in the first two episodes suddenly Deck 9 fired all the talented devs and gave us this.

As they say on their BTS page on Steam "Complete Season". Season you say huh? Which means there might be SEASON 2? Hahaha. It's clearly not happening, but I wish they reunite and make a hella great Season 2 BTS where they are going to show us and tell us what happened before LiS. Everything what happened . There are only stories that Chloe told to Max, how she went into a fight with Nathan, blah, blah. Come on guys.. Make it playable. I wish they reunite and make Season 2, deeper in Chloe and Rachel relationship and then a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Season 3 where you play as a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Rachel. She's been lying to Chloe ( She never knew Rachel hooked up with Frank ). Playing as Rachel would show us her story. And of course would make us cry once again because of her fate in the end. But man, all this is just imagination. I'm so into LiS and LiS BTS characters. So if I was developer or something I would make at least 3 Seasons to BTS. How much it takes until original LiS.

[Jeckenn]

Honestly I think they screwed it up from the get go because they SHOULD have planned on FIVE episodes like the original game was, that way they would have been able to have more time for things like....

1) Chloe should have gone to school for a few days before getting kicked out that seemed too rushed to me and any Principal that did what Wells did I think would be fired shortly after for the way he treated Chloe. She should have had to do far more then just skip school to get kicked out like that, I used to skip school regularly and NEVER got kicked out in fact I graduated highschool with honors.

2) They should have developed the relationship between Chloe and Rachel much slower and also make that more realistic, they should have had Rachel interact with Joyce and David and much more interaction of Chloe with Rachel's parents. It was all way too rushed.

By doing just those two things there would have been way more "feels" to the game and I am sure if I thought about it long enough there are a few more things they could have added, like a longer play scene, more D&D, more with Samantha and Nathan...lots of stuff could have been done better with five eps.

[Krizhni Chizo]

Originally posted by Jeckenn:

Honestly I think they screwed it up from the get go because they SHOULD have planned on FIVE episodes like the original game was, that way they would have been able to have more time for things like....

1) Chloe should have gone to school for a few days before getting kicked out that seemed too rushed to me and any Principal that did what Wells did I think would be fired shortly after for the way he treated Chloe. She should have had to do far more then just skip school to get kicked out like that, I used to skip school regularly and NEVER got kicked out in fact I graduated highschool with honors.

2) They should have developed the relationship between Chloe and Rachel much slower and also make that more realistic, they should have had Rachel interact with Joyce and David and much more interaction of Chloe with Rachel's parents. It was all way too rushed.

By doing just those two things there would have been way more "feels" to the game and I am sure if I thought about it long enough there are a few more things they could have added, like a longer play scene, more D&D, more with Samantha and Nathan...lots of stuff could have been done better with five eps.

What do you think, why Deck Nine made this game?
- Because they really wanted to
- Because chin, chin ( money )
- To gain some respect and popularity
- "Your Idea" _____

[Arash The Great]

That... Episode ... Was ... Too..... ahhhhh ... Slow

[Arash The Great]

I kinda like and dislike ep 3 but at least it was way more better than ep 5 of season 1

[Jeckenn]

Originally posted by Drunk Carl XD:

Originally posted by Jeckenn:

Honestly I think they screwed it up from the get go because they SHOULD have planned on FIVE episodes like the original game was, that way they would have been able to have more time for things like....

1) Chloe should have gone to school for a few days before getting kicked out that seemed too rushed to me and any Principal that did what Wells did I think would be fired shortly after for the way he treated Chloe. She should have had to do far more then just skip school to get kicked out like that, I used to skip school regularly and NEVER got kicked out in fact I graduated highschool with honors.

2) They should have developed the relationship between Chloe and Rachel much slower and also make that more realistic, they should have had Rachel interact with Joyce and David and much more interaction of Chloe with Rachel's parents. It was all way too rushed.

By doing just those two things there would have been way more "feels" to the game and I am sure if I thought about it long enough there are a few more things they could have added, like a longer play scene, more D&D, more with Samantha and Nathan...lots of stuff could have been done better with five eps.

What do you think, why Deck Nine made this game?
- Because they really wanted to
- Because chin, chin ( money )
- To gain some respect and popularity
- "Your Idea" _____

Yeah maybe I should have started my post with "Honestly I think they screwed it up from the get go...." because I really did enjoy BtS as my playtime/hours spent playing the game idicates...I just think if they would have done things slower, like developing the relationship between Chloe and Rachel slower, the game could have been much better. This indicates to me that there really should have been 5 episodes instead of just 3. And who wouldn't want more?

[texasgoldrush]

Originally posted by Jeckenn:

Honestly I think they screwed it up from the get go because they SHOULD have planned on FIVE episodes like the original game was, that way they would have been able to have more time for things like....

1) Chloe should have gone to school for a few days before getting kicked out that seemed too rushed to me and any Principal that did what Wells did I think would be fired shortly after for the way he treated Chloe. She should have had to do far more then just skip school to get kicked out like that, I used to skip school regularly and NEVER got kicked out in fact I graduated highschool with honors.

2) They should have developed the relationship between Chloe and Rachel much slower and also make that more realistic, they should have had Rachel interact with Joyce and David and much more interaction of Chloe with Rachel's parents. It was all way too rushed.

By doing just those two things there would have been way more "feels" to the game and I am sure if I thought about it long enough there are a few more things they could have added, like a longer play scene, more D&D, more with Samantha and Nathan...lots of stuff could have been done better with five eps.

No, it wouldn't have. It would actually drag the game out.

People who bash Ep3 do not want to admit that they didn;t get the story they wanted. It wasn;t rushed storywise. D9 just told the story they wanted to tell, and actually foreshadowed it throughout.

However, this game should have NEVER been episodic in the first place. Ep3 does much better in the full game than stand alone.

[Hitecut]

Once again I don't get why so many people hate - or at least don't like - the final episode. It was the same with the original game. Somehow I think that some people ignore that Before the Storm is first and foremost a prequel. Its main "mission" was to tell the story of how Chloe and Rachel got to know (and love) each other. Since we already knew Chloe, the more important aspect of this was to show what kind of person Rachel was. And I think the prequel did a good job regarding that. Rachel got portrayed as brilliant and likeable but not without a more darker side. I liked the scene in episode 3 when Eliot confronts Chloe about Rachel's adverse effect on her and Chloe get's defensive. As we all know, in the end Rachel betrayed Chloe and the seed of this betrayal is already recognizable in this prequel.

So, all in all, I have to agree with texasgoldrush above, who wrote: "People who bash Ep3 do not want to admit that they didn;t get the story they wanted. It wasn;t rushed storywise. D9 just told the story they wanted to tell, and actually foreshadowed it throughout." Whereas there are some things to critize in Ep3, it just was nowhere as bad as some people say.

[Jah]

I LOVED it. I find Chloe easily the best thing about the life is strange series, so I loved it the entire way through. The writing and voice acting for Chloe is brilliant.

My only gripe is that it should have been longer, 5 episodes. 3 episodes was definitely not enough for me.

[Deusuum]

Originally posted by Squirrel:

I LOVED it. I find Chloe easily the best thing about the life is strange series, so I loved it the entire way through. The writing and voice acting for Chloe is brilliant.

My only gripe is that it should have been longer, 5 episodes. 3 episodes was definitely not enough for me.

I second this. For me Chloe is the favorite character of the whole franchise. And this fact alone made more time spent with her great, I can't get enough of it. That is the reason I hope for more of her in the future.

[Krizhni Chizo]

Originally posted by Hitecut:

As we all know, in the end Rachel betrayed Chloe and the seed of this betrayal is already recognizable in this prequel.

How did Rachel betrayed Chloe?