'Farewell' is inconsistent with the Life is Strange Timeline

[Mother Vain]

[Spoilers]
[obviously]

This legitimately doesn't make sense. Sure there are people who don't like it and think it's too short and feel kind of ripped off by this experience, but I want to focus on something much more important: the lore.

So in the flashback during the original Life is Strange, you're doing your best to hide the keys away from Chloe's father. All three [edit: this part was incorrect as Joyce was not there] as well as Max are in the room. The keys could be hidden which stops him. In the original, there was some method to stop him which changed time around and that became canon.

In this one, they're looking for pirate treasure, do silly things, Joyce is nowhere to be found in the household, and it is impossible to stop him. Why? They're both gone for some reason.

I'm sure someone here can dissect the lore here. Let's try breaking this one open because it is bothering the @#$% out of me.

[High Jet]

You can't hide the keys because William has already left home and Chloe and Max are all by themselves.
There is not much choice to do about that matter sadly.

[mcramer451]

Sure.

In the "time" when Max was trying to stop him from leaving and hiding his keys seems to be a few hours before the beginning of FE's beginning.

I assume that Chloe's father has left to go pick up Chloe's mother before the beginning of the FE episode bc neither he orher come running to find out the noise of the cherry bomb going off - or are seen or mentioned until the cop brings her mom home.

Since Max fixed it - or put it back to as orginal timeline - by giving him the keys, everything is back to normal. Then this episode takes place a few hours after he left.

Make sense?

[Mother Vain]

So are you saying that the events of Life is Strange happened, the father left, the mother also left for whatever reason, they went up to their room, spent the day blowing up barbies and a pirate treasure for what's assumed to be over an hour or two, all while he's driving just down the road to get groceries?

If I'm not mistaken, Joyce was making breakfast at the time. Choices aside (because I can live with a really long cutscene to prevent me from making choices), it seems like this timeline doesn't fit with what we already know.

*edited because that one spelling mistake drove me nuts.

[mcramer451]

I’d have to go back and replay the episode, but from what I remember she was called into work earlier that day – I think you’re getting the cooking breakfast thing confused with another episode but I could be wrong. She was going to take the bus but instead he offered to give her a ride home from work – he wasn’t going to get groceries or anything – and it was crossing the train tracks going to her work is when he got hit by the train. Which is why you see her in FE in her work uniform when the cop brings her home.

So yeah that whole episode with Max playing hide the keys must’ve taken place earlier before the beginning of FE episode, because he’s already gone to pick her up at work when the episode starts.

[Pvt. Martin]

Farewell begins a couple of hours AFTER the scene in LIS EP3 when Chloe and William are making "pancakes". Joyce was never there and then William gets the call to leave leveing the girls at home by themselves. The part when Chloe says "moms cooking with the radio turned up" and wont hear them was added I think just to throw people off as to what day it was.

[Rookie]

Guys the photo of Max and Chloe making pancakes with William exists at this point in time, which means that this is the "original" past before Max ever messed with it
You can assume by the episode and the original time jump that the happenings were like this:

- Max stays over at Chloe's for the night
- Joyce leaves for the diner
- Max, Chloe and William make pancakes for breakfast
- William leaves to pick up Joyce as she's finished her shift
- Max and Chloe probably took a shower and changed clothes(which explains why the clothes are different, I also assume this was done so the player doesn't realize yet when is this episode taking place)
- Max and Chloe clean up Chloe's room
- Max and Chloe do treasure hunting

By the time they're both in the living room it would have been near noon, which would be accurate as Chloe says that she's surprised her parents aren't back yet
Which we all know it's because William got into the fatal accident

The only inaccurate thing is that William hasn't started painting the house yet
Knowing the accident happens that day, there should have been at least 2m of blue paint already

[Zoey]

Originally posted by Vain Palazzo:

So are you saying that the events of Life is Strange happened, the father left, the mother also left for whatever reason, they went up to their room, spent the day blowing up barbies and a pirate treasure for what's assumed to be over an hour or two, all while he's driving just down the road to get groceries?

If I'm not mistaken, Joyce was making breakfast at the time. Choices aside (because I can live with a really long cutscene to prevent me from making choices), it seems like this timeline doesn't fit with what we already know.

*edited because that one spelling mistake drove me nuts.

You're mistaken. In the flashback, William was making breakfast with Chloe, and Joyce wasn't home.

The photo Max takes of them is even sitting on the counter. The only thing that doesn't fit is that Chloe should've remembered that both her parents were out when she set off the firecrackers, but she could've just been assuming they'd have gotten back by then (which they probably would have)

[Mother Vain]

https://youtu.be/jHZwli7SHG0?t=7740

[all spoilers]

- William is making breakfast, discussing eggs and french toast, cooking at stove
- Drawings were on the table, manga was on the table
- Says they never took the big vacation, but in this one she was going on a trip
- She was going to pick up groceries, and picking her up at the supermarket (technically we were both right, he specifically said groceries but he was definitely picking her up)
- The characters actually look older in the original, which is odd.
- The "bus stop" is right down the street, so technically we don't know how far away the location was.

[Rookie]

If this ever happened after the original game, that photo should have never been there since Max burnt it when she undid the choice of saving William

[mcramer451]

"The part when Chloe says "moms cooking with the radio turned up" and wont hear them was added I think just to throw people off as to what day it was."


Agreed. Also the part where Max says "wont your mom hear" - i pointed that out as a inconsistancy in another thread they should have known already. I guess you could write it off as just kids forgetting she wasnt there since she got called in to work when she wasnt supposed to be working and they just forgot - but i agree that the devs did that just to fool us as to what day this was taking place on......

[mcramer451]

Originally posted by Vain Palazzo:

https://youtu.be/jHZwli7SHG0?t=7740

[all spoilers]

- William is making breakfast, discussing eggs and french toast, cooking at stove
- Drawings were on the table, manga was on the table
- Says they never took the big vacation, but in this one she was going on a trip
- She was going to pick up groceries, and picking her up at the supermarket (technically we were both right, he specifically said groceries but he was definitely picking her up)
- The characters actually look older in the original, which is odd.
- The "bus stop" is right down the street, so technically we don't know how far away the location was.

Id ahve to replay the episode to be 100% whether she was at work or the store - why did she have on her work uniform whrn the cop brought her home in FE?

Either store or work - no biggie. Main point is all that took place before FE, so it mostly fits ok timelinewise.....

[Zoey]

Originally posted by Rookie:

If this ever happened after the original game, that photo should have never been there since Max burnt it when she undid the choice of saving William

All that means is that the episode takes place in the unaltered version of the timeline. The one that Max remembers.

[Garrus117]

We all know that if Max hide the key successfully,Chole may get her paralyzed in the end...

[Flare]

You're young and have alot to learn. Moving on from a video game will be your first few steps.

[MarsKiller]

Originally posted by Rookie:

Guys the photo of Max and Chloe making pancakes with William exists at this point in time, which means that this is the "original" past before Max ever messed with it
You can assume by the episode and the original time jump that the happenings were like this:

- Max stays over at Chloe's for the night
- Joyce leaves for the diner
- Max, Chloe and William make pancakes for breakfast
- William leaves to pick up Joyce as she's finished her shift
- Max and Chloe probably took a shower and changed clothes(which explains why the clothes are different, I also assume this was done so the player doesn't realize yet when is this episode taking place)
- Max and Chloe clean up Chloe's room
- Max and Chloe do treasure hunting

By the time they're both in the living room it would have been near noon, which would be accurate as Chloe says that she's surprised her parents aren't back yet
Which we all know it's because William got into the fatal accident

The only inaccurate thing is that William hasn't started painting the house yet
Knowing the accident happens that day, there should have been at least 2m of blue paint already

He did. Max did mention something about William painting the house. And if i remeber right. He only started in the front of the house. What we don't see in Farewell episode.