*spoiler alert* Elliot in Episode 3

[themysterioustraveller008]

One thing that struck me about Elliot when Chloe confronts him in the study is how completely sure he seems that he's the hero. The way he talks makes it clear he thinks this is his story and she's the love interest whom he has to rescue from the evil wiles of Rachel Amber.

Which pretty much nails what a stalker is: someone who projects their own desires onto the person they're obsessed with. Her own thoughts and feelings only make him angry because they're standing in the way of the outcome he pursues which is that she falls in love with him and they ride off into the sunset together. Elliot doesn't care about who Chloe is as a person because, to him, she's just a prop in the story he's written inside his own head and he starts getting nasty when she refuses to follow the script. It felt so satisfying to see him get a taste of reality as he's expelled for what he pulled.

My only regret is that there was never an option to say "You know I'm a lesbian, right?" when he was babbling on about his feelings for her.

[VINCENTALIM]

I dunno why, but I guess all protagonist in LiS and BF is bisexual lol.
Max, Chloe, Rachel.

[paralleluniverse]

Yep. Eliot was the embodiment of male entitlement. I would have liked an option to tell him to ♥♥♥♥ off.

[Savoir faire]

eliot is a nice guy

[Spag]

Originally posted by fredo santana:

eliot is a nice guy

I concur with this (though im not sure if that was sarcasm or not lol). Sure, hes clingy, but I feel as if his character development was completely shattered for the sake of drama. The writing of the dialogue between the two of them reflects this in ep.3.

[themysterioustraveller008]

Nah, with the benefit of hindsight, you can see he was heading in that direction from the beginning. He's always lying in wait for Chloe so they can 'coincidentally' bump into each other and then there's his book of disturbing poetry about her.

[Ars Legendi]

His talkback challenge at the end was the only problem I had with episode 3 (which was overall still pretty good... some people here really need to settle down). The 911 dispatcher heard him talking to a woman and sent cops based on what she was saying. Eliot was in full Friendzoned Nice Guy mode, and there was no reason he would take the fall for her; I’m pretty confident he’d give the cops her name, since they’d definitely be asking. And since I had Chloe tell Rachel everything, James would know Eliot was telling the truth, since he’d figure she’d have to have been with Damon and Sera, and would only know about that through his burner. He’s probably in a world of pain for evidence tampering, but he’d still try to nail Chloe to the wall for breaking and entering. And yet, no consequences? It’s the only inconsistency I can’t really get over.

I mean, unless he’d deny anybody else was there to avoid being charged for assault, or something. That’s the only way I see that working.

[RJM]

I see Eliot as being well intentioned and driven by his feelings for Chloe but drawing the wrong conclusions based on limited evidence. Pretty much like I remember a lot of people being when we were all young. One of my friends went off the rails (as we saw it) and blanked all of us, including his family, to persue a relationship with someone else and fit in with her group. We all discussed what we could do, would an intervention work etc. It took a long time to accept he'd made his own choices and it was very painful for all of us, especially his close family, to be shut out. We'll never know if there was anything we could have said and done that would have changed things for the better, all we know is our (probably inept) attempts failed. If I was Eliot and saw Chloe having a trainwreck of a week seemingly because of a particular individual manipulating her, I'd want to act too. Getting emotional, overreacting and making a mess of it seems pretty normal. More so than the typical RPG narrative where you say all the right things and defuse the situation like you can do with Kate in LiS if you get it all right.

The very brief shot we see of Eliot post-resolution confused me too. I can see James not pressing charges - Rachel had given Chloe permission to enter the house and if it was treated as a crime would be aiding and abetting (in UK terms anyway) so he's not going to want to go there. That should leave Eliot in the clear too. With Damon vanished, the case is dead and any missing evidence is not going to be noticed. It's possible Eliot is leaving or being dismissed from Blackwell without criminal charges being persued, but it's all a bit vague and unsatisfactory.

[fieryace]

Originally posted by paralleluniverse:

Yep. Eliot was the embodiment of male entitlement. I would have liked an option to tell him to ♥♥♥♥ off.

What does being male have to do with it?

Originally posted by Spagbol:

Originally posted by fredo santana:

eliot is a nice guy

I concur with this (though im not sure if that was sarcasm or not lol). Sure, hes clingy, but I feel as if his character development was completely shattered for the sake of drama. The writing of the dialogue between the two of them reflects this in ep.3.

Did you catch his poems? They forshadowed the creepy stalker thing quite a bit, it just wasn't something you were guaranteed to find.

[Fawkes]

He seemed like a different character in episode 3. I felt like they made him extra insane because otherwise he would've been making too much sense about Rachel and Chloe's relationship being bad for Chloe.

Originally posted by themysterioustraveller008:

My only regret is that there was never an option to say "You know I'm a lesbian, right?" when he was babbling on about his feelings for her.

In the journal page for Elliot it mentions that Chloe hooked up with him a few times. So, he probably doesn't know that at all.

[Schnizer]

Originally posted by themysterioustraveller008:

Nah, with the benefit of hindsight, you can see he was heading in that direction from the beginning. He's always lying in wait for Chloe so they can 'coincidentally' bump into each other and then there's his book of disturbing poetry about her.

Yeah, the fact that he was always waiting for her (really noticed this on my second playthrough)I'm not sure is more desparate or disturbing. Also the random texts from him that seem like they were just sent to get Chloe to say anything to him.

And if that wasn't enough, there are the poems...

[Evil Henchman]

If you think about that this has been going on for years, I want to cringe every time I see Ellitot now.

[VINCENTALIM]

Maybe Elliot have a power to stay Young, just like Robert Pattinson in Twilight.
He is a vampire!

[Nightmar乇]

Elliot needs attention so yeah typical guys who deeply in love with girls are somewhat toxic

[Jamboolani]

Originally posted by ochiudo:

He seemed like a different character in episode 3. I felt like they made him extra insane because otherwise he would've been making too much sense about Rachel and Chloe's relationship being bad for Chloe

Devs gave enough foreshadowing elements for his character since episode 1-2 which,apperantly, lots of people missed. So it wasn't just unrealistic, neither different character. You knew about this guy only for 2 chapters, so some people act like they knew everything about him and judging that ep3 confrontation is so out of character which is really silly. Devs gave you enought clues from prior chapter so it is not ooc

He never meant to be "right" either because Eliot was ignorant than not and at the end, he put himself to despicable place. The only valid point there was Chloe's risking her life but still, it wasn't 100% Rachel's influence as he sees. He didn't even exactly know whatever happened. Since he also refused to listen what really happened; he threw those words just for his jealousy and can't get over the rejection. He was trying to make Rachel look bad just to make Chloe loathe her so he could have her all to himself (since he thinks he was the only person in this planet, who should get all Chloe's attention DESPITE Chloe apperantly wasn't into him)


He also aware of Chloe just isn't into him over few years (even in past, Chloe still didn't see anything between them) so the guy was basically ignoring this and being persistent even if he wasn't that blind to can't see girl isn't into him.

[themysterioustraveller008]

When Chloe tells him about how she just got expelled, Eliot asks if Rachel was involved. Look at how dark the expression on his face suddenly turns as he says her name. The seething mass of resentment was always there just beneath the surface and the confrontation in the study is when it's finally unleashed and Chloe sees him for what he truly is.