Forced lesbian romance?

[Scars]

Why the ♥♥♥♥ are they pushing it so far? Wanted to be BFF with Rachel, but I literally can't. There is always that cringy ambiguity between them.
And no Elliot romance. Would have been cool to kiss him in Rachel's father room.
Could have change the ending. Elliot could have help Chloe instead of being a ♥♥♥♥♥.

[Jeckenn]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von cucuonthebeat:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jeckenn:

Yes I thought Elliot was the worst written of any character in either game. At least the one in LiS original, Warren was better written. In fact if you ignore Elliot completely in the the first two episodes he still comes and confronts Chloe when she is in Jame's office and this makes NO sense at all for him to be acting like that when you ignored him completely before that. And in fact they didn't really even give him enough lines in the game to make him act like he does at the end of the game. They should have given some indication that he might turn like that at the end and I was completely surprised when he showed up there at the end...

Devs gave enough foreshadowing from Ep1,Ep2... if you followed clues in-game one could see it anyway.
The point is, no matter if you said Maybe to hangout offers, Chloe didn't care. Same with the other way.. This guy obviously written to be an ''obsessed'' guy. So why it doesn't make sense for him to show up nowhere and stalking you (since you ignored him whatever you chose) ?

That was the whole point of what devs wanted to show you: 'obsession and being persistent'

I guess you could look at it that way, thanks...

[BH]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jade:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von BH:

Humans comes in more varieties than man/woman

Huh? What are you even trying to say there? More varieties than man and woman...? o_O

Sure. Man and woman are only two labels that often are loaded with much more the your sex organs. A real person is so much more, but are forced to adapt to that whole packet. Even medically, it is not so easy either, unrelated to what you have between your legs.

Forget the labels and be who you are. We love you anyway :)

[Jade]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von BH:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jade:

Huh? What are you even trying to say there? More varieties than man and woman...? o_O

Sure. Man and woman are only two labels that often are loaded with much more the your sex organs. A real person is so much more, but are forced to adapt to that whole packet. Even medically, it is not so easy either, unrelated to what you have between your legs.

Forget the labels and be who you are. We love you anyway :)

You'll have to excuse me for ignoring your propaganda...

[RE-L124C41]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Scars ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com is rigged:

Why the ♥♥♥♥ are they pushing it so far? Wanted to be BFF with Rachel, but I literally can't.

Let me ask you one question...did you play LiS at all? If anything it isn't "forced". Am I wrong or can you not even choose NOT to kiss Rachel?

[Zorlond]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von RE-L124C41:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Scars ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com is rigged:

Why the ♥♥♥♥ are they pushing it so far? Wanted to be BFF with Rachel, but I literally can't.

Let me ask you one question...did you play LiS at all? If anything it isn't "forced". Am I wrong or can you not even choose NOT to kiss Rachel?

Hell, I didn't even get the option to kiss her, the situation never came up, no kiss happened, no choice was even needed, and that was that.

[Jiro Dragonheart]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zorlond:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von RE-L124C41:

Let me ask you one question...did you play LiS at all? If anything it isn't "forced". Am I wrong or can you not even choose NOT to kiss Rachel?

Hell, I didn't even get the option to kiss her, the situation never came up, no kiss happened, no choice was even needed, and that was that.

except in the choices after the episodes there was a "did chloe kiss rachel?" it was under the same scene where she gets the bracelet. So there was a chance. But personally i never tried to pursue that relationship...which does make it feel weird that she was so determined near the end despite just being friends.

[mysticfall]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jade:

You'll have to excuse me for ignoring your propaganda...

And me for ignoring your bigoted and blind hatred that doesn't belong to this forum.

[Jade]

We should be thankful they didn't completely force the lesbian bs. Imagine if you didn't have a choice and they started kissing and stuff. Ugh. So yeah the OP is exagerating a bit; Rachel still hits on you but you can just ignore her advances and Chloe just sits there awkwardly lol.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von fender:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jade:

You'll have to excuse me for ignoring your propaganda...

And me for ignoring your bigoted and blind hatred that doesn't belong to this forum.

Disagreeing with your opinions = bigoted and blind hatred..........? Ok pal........

[Jiro Dragonheart]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jade:

We should be thankful they didn't completely force the lesbian bs. Imagine if you didn't have a choice and they started kissing and stuff. Ugh. So yeah the OP is exagerating a bit; Rachel still hits on you but you can just ignore her advances and Chloe just sits there awkwardly lol.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von fender:

And me for ignoring your bigoted and blind hatred that doesn't belong to this forum.

Disagreeing with your opinions = bigoted and blind hatred..........? Ok pal........

I mean it was kinda the same thing in the first game but maybe not as bad. Rachel is way more outgoing than chloe.

[nihilistninja]

I think it's clear in retrospect that Eliot is a subversion of Warren. When I ran into him outside the school I thought 'So here's the BtS Warren.' And then the awkward carpark encounter where he offers Chloe a hug is a little weird but then you find his creepy poetry and that search history later that day and suddenly those text messages seem a bit obsessive.

By the time of their encounter in James' office I had already written Eliot off as a romantic interest and that was the icing on the cake.

As far as Eliot having some good points about Chloe's actions since making friends with Rachel? Yeah he does have them, and I share some concerns about how genuine Rachel is, but hw he arrives at his conclusions invalides them and his actions in airing his thoughts is actively criminal.

It's pretty much handing in your math test with half the answers right but instead of showing your work there's creepy poems about the teacher and obsessive details of her daily schedule and then the test is handed in by following her home and locking yourself in the bathroom with her.

Do you really deserve a pass at the end of the day?

[mysticfall]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jade:

Disagreeing with your opinions = bigoted and blind hatred..........? Ok pal........

I perfectly understand and respect that people have different opinions. But spreading hatred for certain group of people just because of who they are isn't much of an opinion but a bigotry and prejudice.

I don't find any reason to respect Hitler's 'opinion' that every Jews need to be terminated, or that of white supremacists' that claims colored people are somehow inferior to their white counterparts.

So why should I respect yours that basically says you hate homosexual people so much that you can't even stand to see them depicted in a fiction?

It's funny to see how you cry out 'propaganda' when this game has little to do with any social
or religious statements, but you somehow missed all the points that have made this game dear to its fans but instead use it as a tool to spread your own bigoted propaganda that's nothing better than that of racists.

Homosexual population in America is estimated to be around 1.2-6.8 percent which is comparable to the percentage of many minor ehnic groups in that country.

If you include an Asian character in your game, that's not a propaganda. But if someone cries, "BS! You shoulnd't include any Asian character in a game if there's no good reason!" that's a propaganda, and a very contemptible one.

So no, this game isn't about any social propaganda, and it is YOU that is spreading a 'propaganda BS'.

[Big Moustache]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jade:

We should be thankful they didn't completely force the lesbian bs. Imagine if you didn't have a choice and they started kissing and stuff. Ugh.

Exactly. In LIS it is canon. And still it was not forced on us now. I don't get the big deal over this.

[TNX.]

If you don't like the fact that the game revolves around Rachel and Chloe liking one another, then don't play it.

[Grim Griefer]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Scars ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com is rigged:

Why the ♥♥♥♥ are they pushing it so far? Wanted to be BFF with Rachel, but I literally can't. There is always that cringy ambiguity between them.
And no Elliot romance. Would have been cool to kiss him in Rachel's father room.
Could have change the ending. Elliot could have help Chloe instead of being a ♥♥♥♥♥.

Chloe being in love with Rachel was already established in Life is Strange: Season 1. Like the moral of Season 1, there are some things that you just can't change. Why did George Lucas have to make Anakin turn evil and become Darth Vader? Couldn't he have gotten a happy ending?

As for Eliot, he was never a viable romantic option. Pay attention to Chloe's journal entries, and dialogue trees concerning Eliot? She doesn't really dig him. Read Eliot's journal and Google searches. They are creepy and violent with the drawing of the bloody knife and the message "YOU ARE GOING TO DIE." There might have been someone else she liked, but it wasn't him.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jade:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grim Griefer:

Stop crying about it and stop shoving your heterosexual agenda down our throats.

lol. making characters gay or bisexual for no important reason is shoving an agenda, not the other way around. the vast majority of humans are straight, so that's the "default" orientation when you create a character. going out of your way to make them gay/bi without it being the whole focus of the game (or movie or whatever) is blatant agenda pushing.

But it wasn't for no reason. Chloe was already established as gay and in love with Rachel in Season 1. Deck9 didn't go out of their way to make her gay, they did not a have a choice.

And although gay individuals may be a minority in the general human population, in this fanbase people who whine about about gays and lesbians being in games are a very small minority.

[elsie]

it's funny how people get so butthurt and up in arms over gay relationships in games, movies and tv shows. the idiots always yell agenda or something equally ridiculous. like, dude, gay people exist. they're a normal part of life which means that naturally they're going to be represented in entertainment media. what's so perplexing about it? you need to chill. don't play the game if you can't handle watching two girls falling in love or kissing LOL