i feel so sad for Joyce :: Life is Strange: Before the Storm General Discussions

LawlOfZero Oct 30, 2017 @ 9:46pm

No matter the ending either Joyce or Chloe has no family in the end. It sucks and I feel horrible that Joyce had to go the extra mile for Chloe which failed in the end.

#1

Rashu

Oct 30, 2017 @ 9:49pm

Originally posted by LawlOfZero:
No matter the ending either Joyce or Chloe has no family in the end. It sucks and I feel horrible that Joyce had to go the extra mile for Chloe which failed in the end.

#2

Chugster

Oct 31, 2017 @ 3:11am

Why does everyone assume that EVERYONE in Arcadia Bay died? You clearly see the diner looking just as it was when Max was there so its highly likely that Joyce, Frank and Warren survived...Kate was far away in hospital so she probably survived....as would have most of the people at Blackwell (big, old brick building)...others would have had basements etc.

It does annoy me that DONTNOD didnt show anyone else surviving.

#3

BloodySin

Oct 31, 2017 @ 3:42am

Originally posted by Chugster:
Why does everyone assume that EVERYONE in Arcadia Bay died? You clearly see the diner looking just as it was when Max was there so its highly likely that Joyce, Frank and Warren survived...Kate was far away in hospital so she probably survived....as would have most of the people at Blackwell (big, old brick building)...others would have had basements etc.

It does annoy me that DONTNOD didnt show anyone else surviving.

Not to mention that the usual reaction when a surprise mega-storm is reaching you soon isn't to freeze and stare, but to drive away from it. Considering how few people you see around the town, it's fair to assume there wouldn't be any major traffic jams or anything like that keeping people from fleeing.

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LawlOfZero Oct 31, 2017 @ 4:34am

Originally posted by Chugster:
Why does everyone assume that EVERYONE in Arcadia Bay died? You clearly see the diner looking just as it was when Max was there so its highly likely that Joyce, Frank and Warren survived...Kate was far away in hospital so she probably survived....as would have most of the people at Blackwell (big, old brick building)...others would have had basements etc.

It does annoy me that DONTNOD didnt show anyone else surviving.

This is so wrong. During episode 5, you are trying to get to warren. But as soon as you get near the diner it blows up. Killing Joyce, Warren,Frank, and a few other people. It is only stopped if Max is there to stop the fire by placing dirt on top of oil. In the other words Joyce will die during the storm if Max isn't there to save her

Last edited by LawlOfZero; Oct 31, 2017 @ 4:35am

#5

BloodySin

Oct 31, 2017 @ 4:48am

Originally posted by LawlOfZero:
This is so wrong. During episode 5, you are trying to get to warren. But as soon as you get near the diner it blows up. Killing Joyce, Warren,Frank, and a few other people. It is only stopped if Max is there to stop the fire by placing dirt on top of oil. In the other words Joyce will die during the storm if Max isn't there to save her

Except that's not optional, you can't just let it happen and walk away, so your point is invalid.

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LawlOfZero Oct 31, 2017 @ 4:51am

Originally posted by BloodySin:
Originally posted by LawlOfZero:
This is so wrong. During episode 5, you are trying to get to warren. But as soon as you get near the diner it blows up. Killing Joyce, Warren,Frank, and a few other people. It is only stopped if Max is there to stop the fire by placing dirt on top of oil. In the other words Joyce will die during the storm if Max isn't there to save her
Except that's not optional, you can't just let it happen and walk away, so your point is invalid.

It's only possible for Max to save if she was not by the lighthouse. Again, it's comfirmed how she dies if max isn't there to save the Diner. Max wouldn't have been there. Did you play the game or no? It's super clear that you going to Diner is suppose to show how everyone else dies.
We do not know if David or Kate dies. If they were alive then Max and Chloe would went to save Joyce but they didn't as Max already knows they are dead.

Last edited by LawlOfZero; Oct 31, 2017 @ 4:52am

#7

BloodySin

Oct 31, 2017 @ 4:59am

Originally posted by LawlOfZero:
It's only possible for Max to save if she was not by the lighthouse. Again, it's comfirmed how she dies if max isn't there to save the Diner. Max wouldn't have been there. Did you play the game or no? It's super clear that you going to Diner is suppose to show how everyone else dies.
We do not know if David or Kate dies. If they were alive then Max and Chloe would went to save Joyce but they didn't as Max already knows they are dead.

1. By the very nature of what Max does when rewinding changing things, nothing of what you say is confirmed to happen, as Max not being there already is a change that affects the outcome;

2. In the Bae ending Two Whale looks pretty trashed, but there are no signs of charred ground or anything that you'd expect from the aftermath of an explosion.

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CZBGR Icepick has Life is Strange: Before the Storm

Oct 31, 2017 @ 5:00am

I thought I was on the Before the Storm forum....

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LawlOfZero Oct 31, 2017 @ 5:11am

Originally posted by BloodySin:
Originally posted by LawlOfZero:
It's only possible for Max to save if she was not by the lighthouse. Again, it's comfirmed how she dies if max isn't there to save the Diner. Max wouldn't have been there. Did you play the game or no? It's super clear that you going to Diner is suppose to show how everyone else dies.
We do not know if David or Kate dies. If they were alive then Max and Chloe would went to save Joyce but they didn't as Max already knows they are dead.
1. By the very nature of what Max does when rewinding changing things, nothing of what you say is confirmed to happen, as Max not being there already is a change that affects the outcome;

2. In the Bae ending Two Whale looks pretty trashed, but there are no signs of charred ground or anything that you'd expect from the aftermath of an explosion.

You realize the game legit asks you if you wanna save Chloe or people in the town. If you choice Chloe, Everyone dies. That is the whole game theme. Only way for anyone in town to live if Chloe dies. The storm is there because of Max. There are also hints like you find a body covered with a blanket with Warren's shoes. No way would Chloe leave without looking for her Mom.Again, the game is about saving 1.5k people or the most important person to you. You can't have both so you have to choose.

#10

BloodySin

Oct 31, 2017 @ 5:18am

Originally posted by LawlOfZero:
You realize the game legit asks you if you wanna save Chloe or people in the town. If you choice Chloe, Everyone dies. That is the whole game theme. Only way for anyone in town to live if Chloe dies. The storm is there because of Max. There are also hints like you find a body covered with a blanket with Warren's shoes. No way would Chloe leave without looking for her Mom.Again, the game is about saving 1.5k people or the most important person to you. You can't have both so you have to choose.

No, the game asks if you want to save Chloe or save Arcadia Bay - a person and a town, and a town with plenty of able-bodied, non-mentally handicapped adults, perfectly capable of seeing a huge storm and taking action.

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LawlOfZero Oct 31, 2017 @ 5:22am

Originally posted by BloodySin:
Originally posted by LawlOfZero:
You realize the game legit asks you if you wanna save Chloe or people in the town. If you choice Chloe, Everyone dies. That is the whole game theme. Only way for anyone in town to live if Chloe dies. The storm is there because of Max. There are also hints like you find a body covered with a blanket with Warren's shoes. No way would Chloe leave without looking for her Mom.Again, the game is about saving 1.5k people or the most important person to you. You can't have both so you have to choose.
No, the game asks if you want to save Chloe or save Arcadia Bay - a person and a town, and a town with plenty of able-bodied, non-mentally handicapped adults, perfectly capable of seeing a huge storm and taking action.

Can you use spoilers? It's a rule on the forum. Not hard.
There is no proof towards your side. If it was true then wouldn't everyone chose that ending?
The game is about Destiny and choices. No one wanted to flag down the only car driving slowly by everything? Really?

Last edited by LawlOfZero; Oct 31, 2017 @ 5:24am

#12

BloodySin

Oct 31, 2017 @ 5:28am

Originally posted by LawlOfZero:
There is no proof towards your side. If it was true then wouldn't everyone chose that ending?
The game is about Destiny and choices.

There's plenty of proof in the fact they are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ human beings, capable of taking actions beyond staring at a huge storm. I can't speak for you, of course, but even the fictional characters in the game act like that. The fact your "proof" is a single body just makes the joke more laughable.

#13

LawlOfZero Oct 31, 2017 @ 5:31am

Originally posted by BloodySin:
Originally posted by LawlOfZero:
There is no proof towards your side. If it was true then wouldn't everyone chose that ending?
The game is about Destiny and choices.
There's plenty of proof in the fact they are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ human beings, capable of taking actions beyond staring at a huge storm. I can't speak for you, of course, but even the fictional characters in the game act like that. The fact your "proof" is a single body just makes the joke more laughable.

Ignoring forum rules. You have no proof of them living. I also gave more points to my side. Seems like you are wanting to be a jerk instead of having a civil discussion.

Last edited by LawlOfZero; Oct 31, 2017 @ 5:32am

#14

BloodySin

Oct 31, 2017 @ 5:34am

Originally posted by LawlOfZero:
Ignoring forum rules. You have no proof of them living. I also gave more points to my side. Seems like you are wanting to be a jerk instead of having a civil discussion.

Points that all have been refuted. Your sole last point was "look, ONE body, that means EVERYONE DIED!!!1!" Don't use the fact you apparently would just sit and ♥♥♥♥ your pants staring at a huge storm coming as the baseline for how everyone would. As much as a surprise as it might be to you, people tend to have more agency than that.

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