what are sniper rifles and DMR's good for?

[rocketdrive]

compared to missiles it's often twice the heat cost for half the damage, less accuracy, and inability to indirect fire. both fail hard at close range so I really dont see what makes a DMR desirable over a missile in any situation since missiles seems to hit just about everything.

[Kiro]

The devs already acknowledged that they overbalanced missiles to be too OP. You can probably expect them to be nerfed a little in future patches, which might make the sniper rifles more useful. In the game's current state, however, I agree with you fully.

[Mors Invictus]

I have a sniper mech kitted out for speed and heat dissipation on my standard team and it totally owns anything smaller than a heavy mech with a shield. Once in postition it can rapid fire with only about .5 seconds between actions without overheating. No pause between actions when it's raining. So, very useful in my opinion. ;)

Edit: I tried looking it up, but what do you mean with DMR? Marksman Rifles or Direct Missile Launchers? Either lacks one of the acronym's letters. Or maybe COVID just dumbed down my brain today. ;)
Marksman Rifles are too much of a compromise for my taste. Good at the beginning but once you can build sniper rifles and kit out a mech for them, they become superfluous. Not only are sniper rifles more powerful, the longer range also makes it easier to keep the mech (which will probably a bit flimsy compared to a fronline unit) out of harm's way.
Direct Missile Launchers are just weird.

[Galamesh]

Missiles and snipers have their pros and cons. Note that marksman rifles and snipers are similar, but they are separate weapon types. They are both meant to be shot while immobile, but snipers have more range.

Snipers do far more concussive damage given the right model. It's hard to concuss a target with missiles unless they're way lower level.

Sniper shots also travel much faster, allowing you to interrupt enemies more frequently by blowing up an arm or taking out the legs very quickly from far.

From what I've seen playing this game in early access and through 1.0, snipers are the only weapons that seem to be able to shoot legs from the front on a regular basis. Targets of snipers will often crash by getting their legs destroyed even when shot from the front.

Snipers do require direct line of fire thought.

For heat, that depends on which model. There are 3 snipers. One shoots only one time per volley, the other 2, and the other I think 5 times over 2 seconds if memory serves right. Short duration weapons with only 1-2 shots tend to generate a lot of heat per shot, but they have burst damage. Longer duration weapons have more sustained damage and the heat is easier to manage.

I quite like snipers. They work well. Give a unit good thrusters, dash them to the top of a tower and take out a bunch of enemies from a long distance without them getting the chance to get anywhere close.

I find snipers will hit fast moving targets more reliably than missiles.

[whythecynic]

DMRs and sniper rifles are great because their projectiles travel a lot faster. Planning around them is a lot less dodgy, and they can take out a target much earlier than missiles will, even though their long-term DPS is lower. Missiles will, well, miss against fast-moving targets, targets weaving through cover, can be dodged by dashing, and also have a nasty tendency to hit your own units.

[TKMN]

DMR (Marksman Rifles) are pretty good reasonably long range weapons, snipers though are useless most of the time because it's a challenge in itself to get something into sniper optimal range.

[Donovan]

Personally I've found the DMR is a much more solid pick over actual sniper rifles. Much more flexible and versatile. While they might not bring the big damage numbers snipers do, their flexibility makes them more reliable in my eyes. Same reason I went with the marksman rifle over actual sniper rifles in XCom's Long War mod.

[Flavalicious]

Really not following why people are having problems making the sniper rifles work. lol. Stationary + optimal range is a guaranteed damage. Where as missiles sometimes launch into trees and track all goofy, not to mention they take a round or two of flight time to impact, while that enemy gets shots off on your own team.

[Aviticus Dragon]

DMR's are where it's at, and set them up with a backup SMG for close range encounters...Deadly combo

[Delta_Assault]

Originally posted by Mors Invictus:

I have a sniper mech kitted out for speed and heat dissipation on my standard team and it totally owns anything smaller than a heavy mech with a shield. Once in postition it can rapid fire with only about .5 seconds between actions without overheating. No pause between actions when it's raining. So, very useful in my opinion. ;)

Edit: I tried looking it up, but what do you mean with DMR? Marksman Rifles or Direct Missile Launchers? Either lacks one of the acronym's letters. Or maybe COVID just dumbed down my brain today. ;)
Marksman Rifles are too much of a compromise for my taste. Good at the beginning but once you can build sniper rifles and kit out a mech for them, they become superfluous. Not only are sniper rifles more powerful, the longer range also makes it easier to keep the mech (which will probably a bit flimsy compared to a fronline unit) out of harm's way.
Direct Missile Launchers are just weird.

Nobody calls a DMR a direct missile launcher…

[letir]

Originally posted by Flavalicious:

Really not following why people are having problems making the sniper rifles work. lol. Stationary + optimal range is a guaranteed damage. Where as missiles sometimes launch into trees and track all goofy, not to mention they take a round or two of flight time to impact, while that enemy gets shots off on your own team.

Sniper rifles are not guaranteed damage. They still have spread and can miss. Even with gear/mods which lower spread, against sationary target.

[Mors Invictus]

Originally posted by Delta_Assault:

Nobody calls a DMR a direct missile launcher…

Very helpful... Still doesn't answer my question what the eff DMR means.

[Donovan]

Originally posted by Mors Invictus:

Originally posted by Delta_Assault:

Nobody calls a DMR a direct missile launcher…

Very helpful... Still doesn't answer my question what the eff DMR means.

Designated marksman rifle.
Took two seconds with Google.

[Galamesh]

Originally posted by Mors Invictus:

Originally posted by Delta_Assault:

Nobody calls a DMR a direct missile launcher…

Very helpful... Still doesn't answer my question what the eff DMR means.

I am not a gun guy. I had to look it up. Apparently it means designated marksman rifle and it is:

is a modern scoped high-precision rifle used by infantrymen in the designated marksman (DM) role

So in this game that would be the marksman rifles I guess. Mid range weapons. Snipers long range. AR "short" range.

[Mors Invictus]

Originally posted by Galamesh:

Originally posted by Mors Invictus:

Very helpful... Still doesn't answer my question what the eff DMR means.

I am not a gun guy. I had to look it up. Apparently it means designated marksman rifle and it is:

is a modern scoped high-precision rifle used by infantrymen in the designated marksman (DM) role

So in this game that would be the marksman rifles I guess. Mid range weapons. Snipers long range. AR "short" range.

Thank you! I was looking for the acronym ingame and thought I had overlooked some item. English is not my native language so I'm not that familiar with these military designations. :D

[Delta_Assault]

Originally posted by Mors Invictus:

Originally posted by Delta_Assault:

Nobody calls a DMR a direct missile launcher…

Very helpful... Still doesn't answer my question what the eff DMR means.

It’s obvious what a DMR is. Google is your friend.