Trainz Download Station DL speeds too slow

[Regulator_1A]

trying to DL a few items from the Download Station but its stupid slow at 5kb/s. No its not my connection as I can DL at 100MB/s. Can this get fixed or have the content on Steam workshop? This is giving me flashbacks to the 80's dial up speeds.

[✠✠teh✠pwn✠✠]

I used to have these problems, until I upgraded to TRS19, bought a tone of US routes when they were on sale 75% off and I have tons of model railroads, routes, cities, every Southern Pacific, ATSF and BN locomotive possible all for free on the DLC.

Then I loaded up Tane, and I had even MORE trainz and routez to play with!

Trainz2019 graphics are legit. If you don't believe me, check out my screen shots in profile ;)

[Battlecarrier Orion]

You know, I've been on busier servers before. Such as a very popular video sharing platform, and never had downloads lower than 90mb/s. Like Epic, EA, and other companies, y'all are sticking to a technology that is from the late 2000's, and don't want to upgrade, unless it's our expense. As customers with modern computers, either put needs first without the paywall, or make it so that others can host the servers. Your excuse is lazy, and incompetent.

[eduard]

引用自 stlsf4003：

引用自 eduard：

a lot of people left trainz and went for train simulator, a lifetime of download station should be included with your purchase of trainz.

How the hell even plays train sim? Their route's, rolling stock and locomotives are hot ♥♥♥♥. And they force you to pay through the nose for said ♥♥♥♥.

I'll stick with trainz, thank you very much!

trainz has a handfull of good routes witch i can't find on the download station, most of them are from the 2012 area. I bought several routes in train simulator and enjoy them very much... i have trainz too from 2004, both classics up to 2019. but spend more time driving in train simulator. i don't care about building routes

[Kazmeister]

Sorry, but 5 kb/sec is a joke. I get charging people an optional subscription to keep the server lights on, but this isn’t 1995. 1MB/sec would be painful enough. 5 kb/sec is garbage. I’m used to d’l ing at GB/sec. I picked up a couple Trainz items with the Autumn sale because I’ve never played a train sim where you drive the trains and figured I’d give this one a shot, but I’m not going to pay a subscription, and when downloading one user-made route will require keeping my computer running overnight I’m not going to do that either. I wish I’d known about this before I passed the refund point, because I’d happily refund and pick a different train sim to dump money on. One with updated graphics and no archaic download system.

I know you don’t give a damn about one discouraged customer, but I’m disappointed none the less. Time to go leave a review and warn people that if they don’t want to pay a subscription fee they’ll suffer through 5 kb/sec download rates just to get player-created content. Maybe I can save somebody else a few bucks.

Then I’ll go see if your competitor has more favorable terms, but if they use the same antiquated and frankly predatory subscription model I may write off this whole category.

[James Moriarty]

Problem is not only the download speed cap.
The content is very poorly organized and filters don't help much.

I've been looking for sessions at an specific route, but couldn't find any way to filter for this.
Even with a large download band, which I have now due to the First Class ticket, it's an excruciating task to look for anything out of the 600k files.

Anyone knows if I can at least exclude the incompatible items from the search?
This would help a lot.

To Devs: A better curated database at Download Station would reduce connection time from players, as they will not spend so much time digging for content.
This lack of optimization might be overloading your server, and it's something you can change.

[UrmoM]

Zecrail, actually you are using partial Gillette business model (DLC, micro transactions), except more greedy version, because one has to pay for a main game as well.

[TropicNight95]

引用自 Kazmeister：

Sorry, but 5 kb/sec is a joke. I get charging people an optional subscription to keep the server lights on, but this isn’t 1995. 1MB/sec would be painful enough. 5 kb/sec is garbage. I’m used to d’l ing at GB/sec. I picked up a couple Trainz items with the Autumn sale because I’ve never played a train sim where you drive the trains and figured I’d give this one a shot, but I’m not going to pay a subscription, and when downloading one user-made route will require keeping my computer running overnight I’m not going to do that either. I wish I’d known about this before I passed the refund point, because I’d happily refund and pick a different train sim to dump money on. One with updated graphics and no archaic download system.

I know you don’t give a damn about one discouraged customer, but I’m disappointed none the less. Time to go leave a review and warn people that if they don’t want to pay a subscription fee they’ll suffer through 5 kb/sec download rates just to get player-created content. Maybe I can save somebody else a few bucks.

Then I’ll go see if your competitor has more favorable terms, but if they use the same antiquated and frankly predatory subscription model I may write off this whole category.

Thank you man I was just about to buy the game an seen this an other people reviews an I'm not getting it now! I don't have time to wait hours for one thing to download.

[KiwiGal]

A number of years ago I did not buy the First Class ticket for approx 3-4 years as could not afford it.
The way I got around the wait time for the download, is to select the content prior to going to bed and download overnight. This left the time during the next day or evening to use this content building the route.
There is also a limit on how much to download per day, I think it is 100mb, so it did take a little while to get the content, but it was still better than nothing.
Anyway that is how I overcome the obstacle of slowness and limiting.

[Skylieden]

引用自 trainguymichael：

引用自 GameDragon：

I've requested refund and gave you a negative review, I want you to know this as i want to be honest. the game, isn't a 70usd quality at all. unfortunately. unfortunately....

and 5kb/s isn't a main driver for this, but so many issues in the game itself. maybe not so many but i can say game critical issues:
-optimisation below the quality level- constant freezes in the time it shows 17-35 fps. yea, tthey jump all the time. (and i've choose exact my configuration in settings, btw my CPU is much higher spec than you mention in the config profile)
-PBR- i cant attach the screen here but i have no word how even describe it... if you want we can have a chat separately and i can show you.
-Addons what i've bought- i cant see them at all

I own DCS addons, where you got quality Immediately after you buy the product! I have Train sim and TSW which is now king of the hill- Quality vs Performance vs Proce! i'm a fun of Prepar3D and i'm ready for tweaking to make games playable, but you went beyond all the negative expectations, my dear friends

So in general and in details - very dissapointed and negative feelings. Taking into account I know your game since TrainZ 1 back in 20xx I've played most every version till 6 and then mada a pause.....

ahh. btw- I made a request for the game on KeyMailer almost half a year ago to make a review / gameplay for my YT channel.... and imagine, i have NO, zero , responce. even not a reject, witch i will appresiate, but not silence....

so ou can imagine what kind of review i will provide for my auditory now.
sad.........


GameDragon.

I think you're being completely unreasonable with your review. Zecrail is correct in the fact that limiting the download speed is the only way to avoid the internet crashes as well as charge for faster download speeds to pay the server costs and including the staff's time. I would strongly recommend reconsidering your review from my opinion.

I am going to be honest here. Regardless of the outcome, this 5 kb a second means it will take absolute days or weeks to install some of these mods which is beyond excessive. To pay that much for a game where it's only modding support is from their own server that they limit speeds from at an excessive low.

It is understandable to profit and I can see it only being 8 USD a month but this is pretty much just forcing people to pay for premium services. a 91 mb mod at 5 kb a second takes 5 hours to install if I mathed correctly. This is beyond excessive by all means.

I don't know if much changed but its 2023 and I promise nothing has changed either.

[Paltasaurus Rex]

I bought a F.C.T for a friend, and download stuff for him cuz I got the fiber.

It's a scam, bought a 365days FCT to access full speed, I'm stuck @ 800Kb/s.

Don't buy that stuff, and never buy the game if you consider to do it. They don't deserve your money.

[Romp]

引用自 ZecRail：

Hi GameDragon
Unfortunately as we have many thousands of people accessing our server all the time, to provide equal access for all who are accessing the free servers we do have to limit the download speed.

We may look into this again in future, but unfortunately servers are simply not free to run, maintain, or provide access to, and as such we do need to provide a paid option with faster speeds to help cover the costs of running the servers. The purchase of Trainz itself mostly covers the cost of development of Trainz as well as maintaining other online features such as multiplayer in Trainz.

Regards
Zec (N3V Support)

From a business model perspective, this makes no sense. Throttling speed to 5kb/s makes the majority of people (me included) abandon the download and therefore provides a poor user experience. I don't get to experience the free content you have marketed as available unless I pay for a higher d/l speed and it certainly puts me off purchasing any further content.

Yes, you have many people wanting to download your content and you have to throttle speeds, however, 5kb/s in this day and age of high-speed Internet is ludicrous at best and a pure money grab at worst.

If you were to offer higher speeds for people to experience your content I am sure the cost would be offset by the uptick in Payware sales.

[ZecRail]

引用自 Paltasaurus Rex：

I bought a F.C.T for a friend, and download stuff for him cuz I got the fiber.

It's a scam, bought a 365days FCT to access full speed, I'm stuck @ 800Kb/s.

Don't buy that stuff, and never buy the game if you consider to do it. They don't deserve your money.

Hi Paltasaurus Rex
Copying my reply from the TRS22 discussion page here.

The First Class servers can provide up to approximately 3000KB/s, however the exact speed that you see will depend on how your internet provider routes your connection to our servers. If they route you through a slow connection or node, then this will limit the maximum speed that you see. Unfortunately this is outside of our control.

Regards
Zec
N3V Games

[ZecRail]

引用自 Romp：

引用自 ZecRail：

Hi GameDragon
Unfortunately as we have many thousands of people accessing our server all the time, to provide equal access for all who are accessing the free servers we do have to limit the download speed.

We may look into this again in future, but unfortunately servers are simply not free to run, maintain, or provide access to, and as such we do need to provide a paid option with faster speeds to help cover the costs of running the servers. The purchase of Trainz itself mostly covers the cost of development of Trainz as well as maintaining other online features such as multiplayer in Trainz.

Regards
Zec (N3V Support)

From a business model perspective, this makes no sense. Throttling speed to 5kb/s makes the majority of people (me included) abandon the download and therefore provides a poor user experience. I don't get to experience the free content you have marketed as available unless I pay for a higher d/l speed and it certainly puts me off purchasing any further content.

Yes, you have many people wanting to download your content and you have to throttle speeds, however, 5kb/s in this day and age of high-speed Internet is ludicrous at best and a pure money grab at worst.

If you were to offer higher speeds for people to experience your content I am sure the cost would be offset by the uptick in Payware sales.

Hi Romp, unfortunately even today running a dedicated download server like the Download Station is not free for us. The First Class Ticket helps to cover the cost of running the free and First Class Download Station system for Trainz. Due to the sheer number of people downloading from the Download Station each day, we do need to limit the top speed to ensure that everyone with both free and paid access is able to download from the Download Station.

Regards
Zec
N3V Games

[FATAL ERROR: cool sexy]

Then implement the steam workshop...
Nobody is buying your sob story, not with those base game prices and the hundreds of dollars of dlc.

Also the First Class server boosting your download speed to a measly 3~ mb/s is just another kick of dirt into your customer's faces.
I live in literally the middle of nowhere, bonehead country Iowa. And yet our little phone and internet operation has been able to keep up with the times, unlike you guys, and provide 100 mb/s download speeds as apart of the BASE PACKAGE.

[KiwiGal]

引用自 Hunter：

Nobody is buying your sob story, not with those base game prices and the hundreds of dollars of dlc.

You do realise that buying DLC is an option given to players and not a have too? Plus N3V do not set the prices for the majority of the DLC. It is set by the authors of what they feel their own DLC is worth considering the effort and time that is needed in creating this content for the rest of us to buy if we want too.

Regarding the download speed of the First Class Ticket it all comes down to how good your own internet speed of your provider is and the traffic at the time. The Memberships options available with Trainz Plus and Gold do have the First Class Ticket included, along with other goodies.
https://store.trainzportal.com/products/first-class-ticket
https://store.trainzportal.com/