What is the best T6 Premium BB?

[SofaKingA]

After much research I am going to purchase a T6 BB, probably the West Virginia or Warspite.

I'm leaning toward Warspite bc it's a bit faster and I think pretty well rounded in terms of speed, armor, and gun size. Slow BBs kind of annoy me but I have to get used to it at some point. The Dunkerque seems fun but a bit too fragile and dispersion seems pretty bad. I welcome your opinions!

[Jackson]

Arizona is best followed by West Virginia. Warspite is near the bottom of the list which frankly surprises me. This is for NA server. You might see slight variance between them.

https://na.wows-numbers.com/ship/4292818896,Warspite/

[Sidian]

Dunkerque and Arizona are pretty much the best t6 premium BBs. Dunkerque is not only the fastest t6 BB, it also has all its firepower in the front, which means you don't need to show your broadside or "soften your angle" (and make you more vulnerable) to use all your guns.

Arizona is basically a premium version of the New Mexico with a few changes, but that's also what makes her very good. Very high fire power in general and the damage per salvo (for both AP and HE) is one of the highest at t6.

If you want a very good in-depth analysis of premium ships, i recommend the reviews of LittleWhiteMouse:
https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/117549-mouses-new-summary-of-premium-ships/

[Lavian]

Originally posted by Jack:

Arizona is best followed by West Virginia. Warspite is near the bottom of the list which frankly surprises me. This is for NA server. You might see slight variance between them.

https://na.wows-numbers.com/ship/4292818896,Warspite/

This is lifetimes stats though, which may be skewed by different balance iterations.

Warspite might also be hurt by the recruitment program that gives her out for free, so she may literally be the first BB being used by a number of players.

That said, most T6 BBs, particularly premiums, performed on similar levels in the last quarter.
http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/shipstats/na/ship_20191228.html

The extreme outlier is W. Virginia 1941. She's got incredible stats.

Threre's a few tech tree ships a little on the low end, but not super low.

Also, it's notable that there's shifts from quarter to quarter.
http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/shipstats/na/ship_20190928.html

Still, W. Virginia is pretty consistently doing well.

Honestly, the Big 7 (Mutsu, Nagato, Maryland, Colorado, West Virginia, Nelson, Rodney) probably don't belong at T6. The two that are there, Mutsu and West Virginia, are dated variants. To be fair, Mutsu performs pretty much in line with the other T6s, but considering that Colorado, Nelson, and Nagato are all T7, that probably says something.

Also, W. Virginia is a Colorado-class Battleship, just as Mutsu is a Nagato-class. They're literally T6 variants of T7 ships.

[SofaKingA]

This is why I enjoy this game...so many different opinions.

I initially was 100% set on buying the Dunkerque but its survivability seemed lacking the more research I did (but I heard its a fun ship). It was also mentioned somewhere that the Prinz Eitzel Friedrich was one of the worst prem ships in this category. I totally agree that the American BBs in this tier are unbearably slow but I thought I could possibly get used to the WV if I played it a while. I'm completely surprised that no one is endorising the Warspite. Everyone seems to love this ship. I've barely heard anyone's opinion on the Arizona until now so I've kind of ignored it up to this point but I'll check it out.

Thanks for all the links, as a person that loves researching I don't think I'm any closer to making a decision lol.

[eMercody]

West Virginia is currently my credit earner

[SofaKingA]

Originally posted by eMercody:

West Virginia is currently my credit earner

What makes a ship a good credit earner??

[drakron]

Originally posted by SofaKingA:

Originally posted by eMercody:

West Virginia is currently my credit earner

What makes a ship a good credit earner??

Premium and Tier, the best credit earners are Premium T9 BBs (this is why JB is going away, after Might Mo and Musashi, Georgia likely wont last after JB leaves).

Of course winning matters of course but a High Tier ship will always get more and a Premium ship also gets more credits.

[your opinion is wrong]

pef is butt the bayern is like a lot better lmao

[Jackson]

Originally posted by drakron:

Originally posted by SofaKingA:

What makes a ship a good credit earner??

Premium and Tier, the best credit earners are Premium T9 BBs (this is why JB is going away, after Might Mo and Musashi, Georgia likely wont last after JB leaves).

Of course winning matters of course but a High Tier ship will always get more and a Premium ship also gets more credits.

Negative. JB going away cause it's too popular. T9's only make about as much as 8's. Missouri went away cause it had a T9 premium boost which was too much (to credits)

[Firewalk]

Originally posted by your opinion is wrong:

pef is butt the bayern is like a lot better lmao

No way. Bayern's dispersion is so freaking punishing after enjoying the Koenig, it is horrible. In fact, I'm certain that the Bayern has the worst hit-ratio of any BB I've ever played short of Kawachi and Mikasa, it's that bad. With PEF, I have landed a lot more hits.

My favorite T6 BB is Warspite, just amazing all around. I really wanted to say Arizona at first, but that reload is just too long for the top spot for me.

- RA -

[Lavian]

Originally posted by Jack:

Originally posted by drakron:

Premium and Tier, the best credit earners are Premium T9 BBs (this is why JB is going away, after Might Mo and Musashi, Georgia likely wont last after JB leaves).

Of course winning matters of course but a High Tier ship will always get more and a Premium ship also gets more credits.

Negative. JB going away cause it's too popular. T9's only make about as much as 8's. Missouri went away cause it had a T9 premium boost which was too much (to credits)

As far as I know, T9s are the best you get aside from Missouri. The exception is Kii and Roma with Kobayashi camo.

There was a thread about this a while ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/d8m7ud/a_guide_on_premium_ship_credit_income_edited_for/

Also, officially, Missouri went away because it's too strong, not because of credits.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/9ikvhg/its_official_missouri_was_removed_because_it_was/

Considering it's a BB with radar, it's not hard to see why this would be the case.

[Jackson]

Originally posted by Lavian:

Originally posted by Jack:

Negative. JB going away cause it's too popular. T9's only make about as much as 8's. Missouri went away cause it had a T9 premium boost which was too much (to credits)

As far as I know, T9s are the best you get aside from Missouri. The exception is Kii and Roma with Kobayashi camo.

There was a thread about this a while ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/d8m7ud/a_guide_on_premium_ship_credit_income_edited_for/

Also, officially, Missouri went away because it's too strong, not because of credits.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/9ikvhg/its_official_missouri_was_removed_because_it_was/

Considering it's a BB with radar, it's not hard to see why this would be the case.

Eh... That's not what was said in the past. If you look at it's stats Musashi is stronger and it did not go away because it was too strong either. Besides, MO is just an Iowa with radar and no plane. I feel Iowa is stronger myself. I'd rather have the spotter than radar that is only useful of a DD is right up your rear. And you have to notice that Missouri makes like 50% more money than the other tier 9's. For credits, it's in a world all it's own. Just this morning I did very poorly in a battle. Still got 670,000 credits with a +50% boost camo. Power doesn't make sense. Credit earning potential does.

[Lavian]

Originally posted by Jack:

Originally posted by Lavian:

As far as I know, T9s are the best you get aside from Missouri. The exception is Kii and Roma with Kobayashi camo.

There was a thread about this a while ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/d8m7ud/a_guide_on_premium_ship_credit_income_edited_for/

Also, officially, Missouri went away because it's too strong, not because of credits.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/9ikvhg/its_official_missouri_was_removed_because_it_was/

Considering it's a BB with radar, it's not hard to see why this would be the case.

Eh... That's not what was said in the past. If you look at it's stats Musashi is stronger and it did not go away because it was too strong either. Besides, MO is just an Iowa with radar and no plane. I feel Iowa is stronger myself. I'd rather have the spotter than radar that is only useful of a DD is right up your rear. And you have to notice that Missouri makes like 50% more money than the other tier 9's. For credits, it's in a world all it's own. Just this morning I did very poorly in a battle. Still got 670,000 credits with a +50% boost camo. Power doesn't make sense. Credit earning potential does.

Spotters are useful for kiting, firing into smoke, and shooting over islands, sure, but radar allows not only you, but your entire team see into smoke and past islands. It also gives you a fighting chance against DDs. Most BBs have absolutely no way to deal with a stealth DD. They have to have their team around or there's nothing they can do to catch that DD. Missouri gets the anti-DD tool (aside from CVs, of course). The only other BBs that have a shot are ones with Engine Boost, to catch the DD by atempting to speed into detection range, but then you're walking right up to "Well, time to get torped for sure" range.

Also, Musashi is a T10 pretending to be a T9, so it's probably not the best argument to make here in terms of if something is too strong or not. Its got slightly worse gunnery and worse AA than Yamato... at the tier that literally sees CVs the least (aside from T1/2).

[Jackson]

Agreed on Musashi. Still MO's winrate is only 52%. That's marginally OP at best. Other ships are stronger yet are still being sold. (Like Massachusetts).

I feel if I have ships 10km away from me in Missouri, I'm doing something wrong. But that's my play style :)

[Lavian]

Originally posted by Jack:

Agreed on Musashi. Still MO's winrate is only 52%. That's marginally OP at best. Other ships are stronger yet are still being sold. (Like Massachusetts).

I feel if I have ships 10km away from me in Missouri, I'm doing something wrong. But that's my play style :)

True. I do think there might be some "a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B" going on here. She's relatively strong due to her kit, and she made it harder for Wargaming to pressure people into finding ways to get credits that involve real money.