SuperHeavy AP Delema

[eMercody]

Gee my second post being irritated with USN BBs. This time it’s about SuperHeavy AP and how I don’t seem able to make it work. I’m up to Iowa now or the worst time to realize this considering it’s difficult to pick up or that’s the excuse for the low stats.

I figured this out when I snagged West Virginia with dubs, mainly as a ship to train myself. (Dedication -> Commitment) Still hate the Colorado, but my issues are pretty much relieved with it being a tier lower.

So basically I can use the West Virginia’s guns significantly better than I can use the Iowa/ North Carolina guns. Where I get Citadels with Miss Big Seven I have to rely about entirely on pens for my damage with SuperHeavy AP.

I’m looking for clues on why I just can’t Citadel anything with SuperHeavy AP it’s not like West Virginia is an accurate battleship.

[Sidian]

I never heard the term "super heavy AP" in regards to battleships, only in regards to the USN heavy cruisers t8+ (Baltimore, Buffalo, Des Moines). It's called "super heavy AP" because the penetration of these shells are much higher than from any other cruiser and they maintain their speed almost perfectly.

The USN battleships just have normal battleship AP afaik.

The reason why you can use the West Virginia's guns more effectively may be because she's tier 6. The NC and Iowa have the same gun caliber, but the ships they face are better armored.

[eMercody]

It is on the NC’s wiki page though.

[Sidian]

Since the wiki is maintained by players, i guess it's just a mistake they made. Or they used the term willy-nilly because the NC, Iowa and Montana have a slightly better penetration than Colorado, Amagi, Izumo, Friedrich der Große and a few others (which is not enough to compensate for the difference in armor that the higher tier ships face compared to the West Virginia).

In general, the term "super heavy AP" references the AP of the t8+ USN CAs, as i said. It's because the penetration of these shells outclass every other heavy cruiser AP and they have improved auto-bounce angles, but the AP of the t8+ USN BBs is outclassed by some other BBs, especially at t10, with no improved penetration- or autobounce-angles.

[eMercody]

Still am not able to get it to work though.

[imrahil2]

Originally posted by Sidian:

Since the wiki is maintained by players, i guess it's just a mistake they made.

They are referring to the Mark 8 Super-heavy shells those BBs used. This give those shells better penetration at range due to the design.

OP USN BBs tend to do best at mid or slightly past mid range due to the higher arcs from their guns allowing the shells to have a downward angle into the citadel. At close range you are more likely to shoot over the citadel or overpen it due to the arc.

[eMercody]

Still haven’t figured it out, beginning to think I should of just quit the line when I noticed the guns just won’t behave when I shoot them, because it certainly isn’t a fun experience. I’m also seeing that maybe the hype for the future ships blinded my enjoyment for the Colorado.

https://i.imgur.com/JOM3eP6.jpg

[imrahil2]

Originally posted by eMercody:

Still haven’t figured it out, beginning to think I should of just quit the line when I noticed the guns just won’t behave when I shoot them, because it certainly isn’t a fun experience. I’m also seeing that maybe the hype for the future ships blinded my enjoyment for the Colorado.

https://i.imgur.com/JOM3eP6.jpg

You might try posting some replays to help others give you tailored advice. This has helped me improve positioning, target selection, aiming, etc. with little hints and habits I didn't even notice on my own. Otherwise we are shooting in the dark a bit to help you out.