Baltimore or Cleveland?

[Madhir Fakhr]

Which is better? I'd say I can play both CL and CA lines, just want to know other players opinion.

[Torchfire]

I have both of them, so I can confidently say that:

- It there's a CV in the match, Cleveland can be a better choice, particularly if your Baltimore uses Hydro instead of Defensive AA.
- If the map has a lot of islands, Cleveland can fire over them. Baltimore often can't.
- Baltimore has deadly AP shells that can cit a Nelson at 12km (true story). Cleveland's AP can generally only be useful against other cruisers at 8-10km range.
- Cleveland needs the IFHE captain skill for it's guns to effective in dealing damage to high tier BBs. Baltimore does not, due to its higher caliber guns.

[Madhir Fakhr]

Originally posted by Torchfire:

I have both of them, so I can confidently say that:

- It there's a CV in the match, Cleveland can be a better choice, particularly if your Baltimore uses Hydro instead of Defensive AA.
- If the map has a lot of islands, Cleveland can fire over them. Baltimore often can't.
- Baltimore has deadly AP shells that can cit a Nelson at 12km (true story). Cleveland's AP can generally only be useful against other cruisers at 8-10km range.
- Cleveland needs the IFHE captain skill for it's guns to effective in dealing damage to high tier BBs. Baltimore does not, due to its higher caliber guns.

Is the cleveland still effective if i choose CE over IFHE? I only have 10 point captain. I think CE is also a must on this squishy ship

[Donegali]

I too have both, and can't really add much to what Torchfire has already said. Both are strong ships at the right time.

Originally posted by Madhir Fakhr:

Is the cleveland still effective if i choose CE over IFHE? I only have 10 point captain. I think CE is also a must on this squishy ship

To really pull it's weight, the Cleveland needs both IFHE and CE. If I had to choose between which to get first I would probably go for CE first just t enable you to get into position easier. You can still deal damage without IFHE but if you're dead it makes no difference.

[Madhir Fakhr]

Originally posted by Donegali:

I too have both, and can't really add much to what Torchfire has already said. Both are strong ships at the right time.

Originally posted by Madhir Fakhr:

Is the cleveland still effective if i choose CE over IFHE? I only have 10 point captain. I think CE is also a must on this squishy ship

To really pull it's weight, the Cleveland needs both IFHE and CE. If I had to choose between which to get first I would probably go for CE first just t enable you to get into position easier. You can still deal damage without IFHE but if you're dead it makes no difference.

I think i'm gonna go with the baltimore then cuz it doesn't depend on ifhe. Thanks for enlightening me guys.

[Torchfire]

Originally posted by Madhir Fakhr:

Originally posted by Donegali:

I too have both, and can't really add much to what Torchfire has already said. Both are strong ships at the right time.



To really pull it's weight, the Cleveland needs both IFHE and CE. If I had to choose between which to get first I would probably go for CE first just t enable you to get into position easier. You can still deal damage without IFHE but if you're dead it makes no difference.

I think i'm gonna go with the baltimore then cuz it doesn't depend on ifhe. Thanks for enlightening me guys.

My Cleveland only has a 13-point captain, who has IFHE, but not CE. while it does make gameplay a bit more difficult, it's not that bad that it would make it too hard to play.

But Baltimore is a fine ship, too.

Also, note that both tier 9 USN cruisers (Seattle and Buffalo) are pretty much total crap. The tier 10s, though... Those are some leathal (but rather squishy) deathmachines. Worchester does need IFHE as much as the Cleveland, though.

[Donegali]

Originally posted by Torchfire:

Also, note that both tier 9 USN cruisers (Seattle and Buffalo) are pretty much total crap. The tier 10s, though... Those are some leathal (but rather squishy) deathmachines. Worchester does need IFHE as much as the Cleveland, though.

Currently, I have unlocked but not purchased, the DM Donskoi, Ibuki, Seattle, Iowa, Udaloi and almost done on the Buffalo. With the exception of the Iowa and Udaloi, I haven't purchased the other ships purely because of facing the T9 grind in ships that are supposed to be rubbish. I know the T10's are worth it, but I just can't face it....and I refuse to use FreeXP as I'm waiting to hear how the Alaska is going to be sold.

[Torchfire]

Originally posted by Donegali:

Originally posted by Torchfire:

Also, note that both tier 9 USN cruisers (Seattle and Buffalo) are pretty much total crap. The tier 10s, though... Those are some leathal (but rather squishy) deathmachines. Worchester does need IFHE as much as the Cleveland, though.

Currently, I have unlocked but not purchased, the DM Donskoi, Ibuki, Seattle, Iowa, Udaloi and almost done on the Buffalo. With the exception of the Iowa and Udaloi, I haven't purchased the other ships purely because of facing the T9 grind in ships that are supposed to be rubbish. I know the T10's are worth it, but I just can't face it....and I refuse to use FreeXP as I'm waiting to hear how the Alaska is going to be sold.

I used free EXP to skip over a bunch of ships... I skipped Lyon, Alsace and a bout a third of the Buffalo grind, as well as some low-tier boats.
And I'm not sorry. I fully intend to skip Seattle, but I currently don't have the credits or a captain for the Worchester. But my Fletcher? I won't skip it. As far as tier 9s go, it's a pretty good one.

[Donegali]

Originally posted by Torchfire:

But my Fletcher? I won't skip it. As far as tier 9s go, it's a pretty good one.

Aaah, the Fletcher. My absolute favourite ship in the game, hands down. If WG told me I could only keep 1 ship it would be the Fletcher. Pretty decent at everything it does. I was hugely disappointed when I unlocked the Gearing.

[The Tinman]

Ibuki has gotten power-creeped very bad. Friedrich could use a buff. Udaloi makes no sense in the "stealthy cap-contesting" RU dd line. The Izumo is still kinda garbage. Saint Louis has been screwed with the reload nonsense. Neptune has ATTROCIOUS rudder shift(same with Buffalo).

Bottom line-a lot of T9s are problematic and need BALANS! :P