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Many DDs, if not most, have powerful guns. They just can't use them very often because of their small HP pool and low range. For some DDs, torpedoes aren't even a viable weapon.
Oh, CVs are often very well protected. Their protection is called "team" and "plane spotting". You spot the DDs with your planes, your team will get rid of them. If a DD manages to sneak by your team and your planes, he's simply played that well or you were out of position because you didn't move with your team - or your team simply died and there`s nothing you can do anyways.
See, there is an issue with your opinion that CVs should be the most powerful ships. It's called balance. All ship classes have to be on the same power level, otherwise players simply stop playing shipclasses that are too weak, and in the end, we would get only 3vs3 battles with 3 carriers per side after 5 minutes of waiting time.
this call balances? this call DDOS, no WOWS(Destroyers of war ship)
You can't just ignore differences in player skill if you want to discuss balance. A really good player will destroy several bad players, even when the good player is using a bad ship and the bad players are using good ships.
I saw a t8 CV destroying several t10 DDs, and i saw a t10 BB absolutly destroying the T10 IJN gunboat DD and several other ships. How can that be? Difference in player skill, nothing more.
For a discussion about balance, you have to use statistics. Ships are equally played by good and bad players over the course of a few thousand matches, so player skill is canceled out and the actual numbers are an indication for the ship's strength. And by statistics, CVs are doing way better than DDs at the moment - which doesn't surprise me, as CVs counter DDs.
The Enterprise in particular is probably the strongest CV right now (in relation to its tier). If you have problems with her, then i'm really wondering if you actually played the tier 4 and tier 6 USN CVs for at least a few dozens matches or jumped right into tier 8 with barely any knowledge about the game and how to play the CVs.
I am not saying that enterprise is worse, I also can have good results in gameplays
I just saying that after 8.0.0, all CV are improper nerfed and heavy rely on teamates protection... " As you called, BALANCED"
CV should not be detected as weak main body protection, but in exchange, those plane should be powerful enough to protect itself right?
just like DD has low HP but it have smoke, and high conseal
CA have Radia to search DD in protection himself from torpedo and smoke guning,
BB have many sub cannon and huge health in protect itself...
CV was able to use rocket in 8.0.0 but now, CV can only hide, hide and hide those DD
those planes are not even able to find DD due to 2~3Km sky conseals...
neither CA, DD or BB is heavy rely on teamates, but after nerfed, CV is it now
I dont understand the nerf of rocket to DD, from this high conseal, A DD found by CV is his own problem, not CV too strong, but in this case, CV keeps nerfed
In general, CVs were buffed. Most CVs became way stronger with 0.8.0, and the developers implemented a lot of nerfs because of that.
I have no idea what you are trying to say, sorry. :/
CVs can also use HE bombs and torpedoes against DDs to deal 6k+ damage per drop. But most of the time, you just need to spot them for your team and they'll take heavy damage or are forced to smoke up (and thus cannot advance to your position).
If you still think CVs are weak, watch these two videos. I had a lot of fun watching them and they are very recent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V8aAjpX5wM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkutrar5M8c
I know, I know, it is overpower in 8.0, but after AA nerfed, you must considers players with bad lucks?
those youtuber can have few or even no flak cloud in their way, but in same situation, same ship same planes, just like me, it will burst in my plane directly, this is not fun...
moreover, yeah, HE and torps are ok, but in terms of this, the DD must not focus on your plane, even is CA is easy to escape torps, (in attention, BB can also totally escape, at least I can)
As you know, before rework, at least I can use cross torpedo to hit DD by self,
but now, no way! This game really nerf a powerful attack ship in to a supporting ships
How about doding them? There might be an occasional undodgeable cloud, especially if you attack a big group of ships, but it shouldn't be too difficult to dodge like 95% of them.
And those youtubers get constantly good matches, you can check their stats. It's not a matter of luck.
It's also a matter from where and who you attack. I played CVs for the first time myself yesterday, Langley and Ranger. The Langley is pretty bad, especially with her single torpedo drop, but i got a torpedo hit rate of 62.5% with the ranger, which means out of the 6 torpedoes of the squadron (with 3 attacks and 2 torps each attack), i hit 4 on average.
And that with the very slow USN torpedoes.
Yes, and that was way too strong. A good carrier player had no issues just deleting almost any DD within the first 2 minutes of the game. If you think that this wasn't an issue, then you are heavily biased.
So, you're telling me that you think DDs are overpowered because you and only you can't seem to kill them? How can you possibly fail to kill them in an ENTERPRISE of all things, an almost game-breakingly overpowered ship, belonging to a class that hard counters DDs? You say that rockets were nerfed, which is true, but ENTERPRISE DID NOT RECEIVE THIS NERF. In fact, it has far superior rockets to any CV, even 0.8.0 versions of them. Enterprise has nearly pinpoint accurate rockets with NO MOVEMENT AIM PENALTY, which as a result deal 6-8k damage per attack. The 44s respawn time means that you can spam them too. If you can't kill DDs with an Enterprise, you are an unimaginably terrible CV player, and there is no way around that. You can be a dead average player and still kill every DD on the enemy team within ten minutes without any way for them to stop, and unlike the other two DD shredding CVs (Midway and Lexington, which require some skill to line up their bombs), Enterprise is very forgiving and easy to play. Just point and click DDs to death.
TL;DR: Try to actually attack the DDs with your rockets instead of rolling your head over your keyboard.
SO why the FK my circle is bigger and bigger even with a little shake? no nerf?
And I am saying something, like "although I accurate hit the ship, with half hit, I deals 700 only
but not 7K/2 so are you telling me that DD is using cheat?
Moreover, when that DD is strike on you, do you have even time to turn a half circle to attack it?
More and more, even if you aim, you can not move anyway, but that DD can move,
this is not the problem of accurate, is that the mobility of DD,
Why with this huge mobility DD can deals so much damages which some BB cant even have?
THIS IS TOTALLY UNFAIR,
Lets stop talking CV,
BB: with accurate have huge damage, but very very slow speed
DD: with easy torpedo have more huge damage, but so fast, + very low conseal
In this two sentence, if this is fair?
SO why DD can kill BB CV or even CA easily
but
BB cant kill DD because speed and size of DD plus long CD of gun
(PS. moreover, since the nerf, cant use AP to DD anymore)
CV cant kill DD because speed of size of DD and will larger circle of aiming move
CA, can easy to kill DD(if have radar) but also easy be killed, as DD have smoke and torpedo
It should delete DD in this game
CVs are still TOO EFFECTIVE against DDs, that's why they will receive an other nerf in 0.8.4. As a CV, you are not supposed to fight DDs effectivly.
Try to stop caring for DDs. Ignore them unless you are absolutely forced to deal with them.
WoWs is a team game. Go for the battleships, they can't dodge your attacks and if you force them to slow down or even retreat (or simply sink them), your cruisers will have a much easier time to fight enemy DDs.
Have you tried using lower tier CVs to learn how to use the ship class?
Jumping in at tier 8 in a class you haven't tried before is usually a bad idea. In this case it's an issue with higher tier CVs being more unforgiving with control input,
Your supposed to learn how to aim in the lower tier CVs which have slower planes and more forgiving targeting reticules (don't expand as fast when maneuvering) so that when your reach tier 8 you have a good idea of where to aim to hit and how the planes handle which then lets you adjust to the faster speed of the planes.
Just skip the Langley... it's terrible.
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You're adjusting your aim with WASD, aren't you? Aim with the mouse and enjoy no aim penalties. You're only doing 700 damage because you can't aim at all. DDs rely on stealth to function. As a CV, you can completely remove the stealth of any ship you want because you have planes. If you are too useless to even just fly in circles over the DD until it dies then you shouldn't play CVs. I do play CVs, and I can easily kill pretty much any ship I want at any time. I suggest you a: play some DDs yourself and see how "OP" they are and b: learn to play to the standard of a damp cloth set on the keyboard.
If a DD is managing to flank your whole team to get to you, that's a failure of your team, your spotting and your positioning.