Watch out for the new BROKEN ship Colbert. Test ship that's a Tier X Atlanta on steroids and breaks the game

[lockwoodx]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1768380304

[lockwoodx]

Fires a constant stream of bull non-stop. Worse than Atlanta or Minotaur. Dominates games. OP.

[Sidian]

Colbert is still in testing. Testers have to test ships in the normal queue, otherwise the devs can't collect data on it. The Colbert is a glass cannon. Extremly high DPM, extremly low armor and HP.

Also, why do you have only 7k damage and 10 hits after 9 minutes? That's very low. The Donskoi should be able to shoot at enemies after 3 or 4 minutes, and you shouldn't have any issue hitting enemy cruisers or BBs at 15km, and the Colbet shouldn't even be able to hit you at 15km+.

I think if you focus on improving yourself, you would have less issues with fighting ships like the Colbert and more fun if you have to face those. :)

Take a look at this video for tipps and recoomendations for the ship:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJgIl9PVcIQ

[Kamiyama]

Does it shoot HE? It would be nice for starting fires.

Otherwise I can't see it threatening anything other than destroyers. To get such a rapid rate of fire the guns have to be puny.

[lockwoodx]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Kamiyama:

Does it shoot HE? It would be nice for starting fires.

Otherwise I can't see it threatening anything other than destroyers. To get such a rapid rate of fire the guns have to be puny.

It doesn't just start fires. It maintains them better than anything and acts like a constant stream of tracer fire.

[Sidian]

Początkowo opublikowane przez lock:

No need to be a di*ck Sidian and say I need to improve myself since it's a broken test ship that is clearly OP.

You call me a "di*ck" for trying to help you? Way to go mate. You dealing not enough damage is not an issue with the Colbert. If you enjoy the game the way you play, it's fine. But you have a lot of room to improve and you might have simply more fun if you do so. Even if you have to fight ships that seem to be OP.

But we simply don't know if the ship is OP. You can die easily. Easy citadels from all angles, HP like a t7 cruiser. Worse HE penetration than the IJN gunboats. And there are no public stats of the ship yet. It might even be too weak at the current state (although i doubt it).

And as i said, to test a ship, testers HAVE to play it in PvP. There is no way around that.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Kamiyama:

Otherwise I can't see it threatening anything other than destroyers. To get such a rapid rate of fire the guns have to be puny.

127mm. No improved penetration. Extremly deadly against lightly armored cruisers and destroyers (at short range, since it's really hard to hot moving ships at 15+ km distance), but almost no damage against heavy armored cruisers and BBs. But it's a very good fire starter atm to compensate for the lack of HE pen.

[lockwoodx]

.....and blocked.

[imrahil2]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Sidian:

127mm. No improved penetration. Extremly deadly against lightly armored cruisers and destroyers (at short range, since it's really hard to hot moving ships at 15+ km distance), but almost no damage against heavy armored cruisers and BBs. But it's a very good fire starter atm to compensate for the lack of HE pen.

I'll take my Wooster over Colbert any day.

[lockwoodx]

"but almost no damage against heavy armored cruisers and BBs"

Except for the non-stop fires, constant distraction from non-stop stream of shells, and a tracer-fire yellow brick road leading right to the target..... ALL which the blocked apologist conveniently ignored.

I hope they balance it. Broken atm. A game changer.

[Donegali]

The Colbert is a very situational ship that only works well on certain maps and is best against BB's as they cant easily dodge the shells like a cruiser. If you're a semi-compotent cruiser player you will sink it in a couple of salvos as it can be penned from any angle. On maps with few islands it cant kite and it cant hide. The shell velocity is so slow the shells are easy to dodge. I'd be far more worried about the Smolensk or whatever the Russian one is.

However, I would be surprised if it is released in it's current form.

[Sidian]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Donegali:

If you're a semi-compotent cruiser player you will sink it in a couple of salvos as it can be penned from any angle.

Be careful, he'll block you for not agreeing with his point of view and for saying that a semi-competent cruiser player can deal with the ship (since he wasn't able to deal with it). :P

As i said, statistics of test ships are not public yet, but imo the Stalingrad is still more powerful than the Colbert. Too bad that ship won't get nerfed anytime soon.

[Donegali]

Once players get used to it, it will be neutralised quicker than the Atlanta. I tried kiting in a couple of games and it doesn't work, in fact once you're spotted you're pretty much dead. But on the right map it is a BBs nightmare and he is correct about the fire chance which I'm fairly sure will be adjusted. Also, don't send your CV planes over it!

But it's far, far from broken the game.

[Banzai]

Having played it, the guns are worse than pretty much every dd at t10. Yes it has a lot of them, and the constant spam is scary (sometimes fires) but its not nearly as nasty as you think.

Its not that mobile, not that fast and can be citted from any angle by anyone who can aim with AP.

[StormhawkV]

Colbert is hard to play. When someone performs well in it he's probably a good player. The ship relies on island cover and therefore needs a spotter. Without spotting (or islands) the ship is rather weak. As it's armed with DD caliber guns it will be negatively affected by the IFHE rework that's said to be worked on. I'd be careful with buying it as long as we don't know any details. Same goes for Smolensk.

[OBXandos]

OP, Sidian is a long time and knowledgeable poster on these forums. He is nearly always polite and courteous. You are doing yourself a disservice by blocking him.

As others have said, this ship excels in some roles and others it is worthless. If you find yourself under constant fire from a stationary target, then I would say you misplayed. Flank the island or move away from it. If you can't do that then the red team is just better than your team.

I have a lot of experience in the Atlanta, I know how it plays and what it's weaknesses are. It is FAR from an invincible ship. Yes it can be annoyingly lethal in the right hands. It can also be completely useless in the wrong maps or situations.

I am much more worried about the Smolensk than the Colbert, it has it's own smoke consumable.

[Banzai]

Początkowo opublikowane przez OBXandos:

OP, Sidian is a long time and knowledgeable poster on these forums. He is nearly always polite and courteous. You are doing yourself a disservice by blocking him.

As others have said, this ship excels in some roles and others it is worthless. If you find yourself under constant fire from a stationary target, then I would say you misplayed. Flank the island or move away from it. If you can't do that then the red team is just better than your team.

I have a lot of experience in the Atlanta, I know how it plays and what it's weaknesses are. It is FAR from an invincible ship. Yes it can be annoyingly lethal in the right hands. It can also be completely useless in the wrong maps or situations.

I am much more worried about the Smolensk than the Colbert, it has it's own smoke consumable.

Atlanta is a good analogy, since its one of those ships that people see for the first time in a match and think "omg p2w premium OP etc", without realising that its a lot of fireworks for not very much effect (and still has among the worst stats for all t7 cruisers).

Colbert is like it, but turned up to 11 (but without the radar and torps). The spam is frankly hilarious - its always with regret that you take your finger off M1, and its undoubtedly one of the best AA platforms in the game if you spec for that. Is it OP tho? Not really. As mentioned above - good players will do well in it, but this was always the case in any ship.

Początkowo opublikowane przez OBXandos:

I am much more worried about the Smolensk than the Colbert, it has it's own smoke consumable.

Yep, Smolensk is a much more rounded ship, though it doesnt produce quite as many pretty rainbows as Colbert.