WG's complete disrespect of its community

[Antwantcookie]

Its rare that I get annoyed enough to not care if things get censored, but screw it. This is a call to review bomb this game. Enough is enough, there have been more PR disasters in the past 2 weeks alone, than the last year.

The list includes:
- WoWs Discord Q&A which birthed the "miss-communication" meme
- Selling a tier 10 ship for $$$ despite telling us on numerous occasions it will never happen
- Blatant false advertising with containers, which was covered up as a "miss-communication"
- Screwing up the easiest PR victory possible with gambling and lies (Missouri)
- And most recently, the resignation of most larger Community Contributors

You extend that list out to the past few months and you get:
- Soviet fantasy CVs
- The Yukon behind the scenes
- Double CV Clan Battles, despite huge community objection
- Kong vs Godzilla fiasco

The point is, WG is not gonna care unless something big happens. A review bomb on steam might do that, I don't know. So sharpen your pitchforks guys, we've got a company to burn.

(Edit to the number of CCs)

[Obamenau]

Escrito originalmente por casualsailor:

Escrito originalmente por Obaminator:

Lmao are you a wargaming employee or something?
Barging in here to argue the legality of loot boxes being gambling and why CCs should be shills... tf?

It is inaccurate to equate the purchase of a loot crate with the purchase of a lottery ticket. They differ because the lottery ticket pays cash to a select number of "winners" while the loot crate offers something of "value" to every purchaser.

Have you read my review of the game? Of course I am not employeed by WG. But that doesn't make me immune to using reason. Why don't you use some reason for yourself.

Why would Wargaming promote CCs if it did not profit them to do so? How does Wargaming profit if not through the sales of Premium products. Therefore, why would Wargaming not expect their promotion of CCs to also promote the sale of Premium products?

When WG gives a CC the doubloons necessary to "purchase" a Dock Yard ship don't you think they expect the CC to purchase the ship and demonstrate why EVERYONE should want one? Don't you think this plays directly into certain individual's lack of patience and their "need" to have instant gratification?

You call CC "shills." I call them what they are...product demonstrators..product promoters... i.e. salespersons.

Yeah absolutely nobody cares about definitions and technicalities. Do want to make an actual point here?

I dont want to misrepresent you, but you seem to view CCs kind of like employees which really isn't case. A CC program is ideally meant to mutually beneficial. The company gets advertising, the creator more content material. Both have leverage towards eachother, which as a result of breakdown in cooperation we sadly see being used now..

[casualsailor]

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Escrito originalmente por casualsailor:

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Yeah absolutely nobody cares about definitions and technicalities. Do want to make an actual point here?

I dont want to misrepresent you, but you seem to view CCs kind of like employees which really isn't case. A CC program is ideally meant to mutually beneficial. The company gets advertising, the creator more content material. Both have leverage towards eachother, which as a result of breakdown in cooperation we sadly see being used now..

"absolutely nobody?" I care about definitions therefore your statement is in error.

Again, I do not wish to get into a semantic argument. If you are compensated for your labor then I consider you an employee and the person compensating you an employer. I fully understand that the customer of a plumber is technically not his employer. But that does not negate the fact that for a limited amount of time the customer employs the plumber.

The reason I use words like employer and employee is because these words represent the fundamental relationships involved. While it is true that both sides benefit from this relationship that does not negate the fact that it is the CC which is "compensated" and WG is the entity which is doing the "compensating." Were it the other way around and the CCs were paying WG for the privilege of using their game to create content then I would not refer to them in the same way. I would refer to the CCs as "customers" and WG as the "vendor."

[baddoggs]

Has anyone EVER actually SEEN Jingles PLAY WoW's?
All i have ever seen is his re playing saves sent by other people and rubbish
what are probably new players to the game. The guy is a buffoon.

[Amigo]

It seems the angry mob here just needs to hate someone or something. It's like a witch hunt, someone said "She's a witch!" and the others went "Burn the witch!".

It could also be they are angry because they spent some money on the game and didn't get what they wanted. So they blame WG and call the company " corrupt" and "fradulent". In other words these people are greedy.

[casualsailor]

Escrito originalmente por baddoggs:

Has anyone EVER actually SEEN Jingles PLAY WoW's?
All i have ever seen is his re playing saves sent by other people and rubbish
what are probably new players to the game. The guy is a buffoon.

As criticisms go this is a pretty weak one. The man has over 600k subscribers and his videos routinely get over 100k views.

He is quite possibly the single most successful CC in Wargaming's history. Wargaming thought so highly of his contributions that the added him as a ship commander into the game as well as a voice one can choose as their default. I use his voice for all my ship's commanders regardless of nation.

I notice you routinely use insults to express your sycophantic devotion to Wargaming. And you are of course free to insult Jingles here whenever you wish. But I'm fairly confident that your opinion is a minority one.

[baddoggs]

Escrito originalmente por casualsailor:

Escrito originalmente por baddoggs:

Has anyone EVER actually SEEN Jingles PLAY WoW's?
All i have ever seen is his re playing saves sent by other people and rubbish
what are probably new players to the game. The guy is a buffoon.

As criticisms go this is a pretty weak one. The man has over 600k subscribers and his videos routinely get over 100k views.

He is quite possibly the single most successful CC in WoWs history. Wargaming thought so highly of his contributions that the made him a ship commander as well as a voice one can choose as their default. I use his voice for all my ships regardless of nation.

I notice you routinely use insults to express your sycophantic devotion to Wargaming. And you are of course free to insult Jingles here whenever you wish. But I'm fairly confident that your opinion is a minority one.

You did not answer the question.

[casualsailor]

Escrito originalmente por baddoggs:

Escrito originalmente por casualsailor:

As criticisms go this is a pretty weak one. The man has over 600k subscribers and his videos routinely get over 100k views.

He is quite possibly the single most successful CC in WoWs history. Wargaming thought so highly of his contributions that the made him a ship commander as well as a voice one can choose as their default. I use his voice for all my ships regardless of nation.

I notice you routinely use insults to express your sycophantic devotion to Wargaming. And you are of course free to insult Jingles here whenever you wish. But I'm fairly confident that your opinion is a minority one.

You did not answer the question.

I have seen him play WoWs and WoT as well as a many other games.

[baddoggs]

Escrito originalmente por casualsailor:

Escrito originalmente por baddoggs:

You did not answer the question.

I have seen him play WoWs and WoT as well as a many other games.

Perhaps he should post some of his own gameplay.
Pulling the piss out of players in a game your not even in is a little
weak.

[casualsailor]

Escrito originalmente por baddoggs:

Escrito originalmente por casualsailor:

I have seen him play WoWs and WoT as well as a many other games.

Perhaps he should post some of his own gameplay.
Pulling the piss out of players in a game your not even in is a little
weak.

Again, that is your opinion. As criticisms go it is a fairly anemic one. The success or failure of a content creator, or any creative endeavor for that matter, is typically judged by its popularity.

From that standpoint I don't think someone with 300k views per week has anything to worry about.

I'm betting his "Mingles with Jingles" tomorrow where he makes his announcement and expresses his opinion will be quite popular.

BTW, do you have a YouTube channel or Twich stream? If so, I'd love to review it.

[baddoggs]

Escrito originalmente por casualsailor:

Escrito originalmente por baddoggs:

Perhaps he should post some of his own gameplay.
Pulling the piss out of players in a game your not even in is a little
weak.

Again, that is your opinion. As criticisms go it is a fairly anemic one. The success or failure of a content creator, or any creative endeavor for that matter, is typically judged by its popularity.

From that standpoint I don't think someone with 300k views per week has anything to worry about.

BTW, do you have a YouTube channel or Twich stream? If so, I'd love to review it.

No, but if i start one i will send you the link. New channels can always use support.

[Amigo]

Escrito originalmente por Destaツ:

I can tell not one of you defending WG is fully looking into the situation nor have done much research

Just about every point you have made can be countered with evidence in the form of testimony or past WG related history/actions

The first post here, is that your evidence? Gee, that's something. A company lied to you? Here's a secret - every company lies. Every single one of them. They are all cynical asf. Don't act like you are 12 year old virgin. They all want money. So if you spent something and got not what you expected to get - that's on you, not the company.

[gibbamon]

Escrito originalmente por Amigo:

Escrito originalmente por Destaツ:

I can tell not one of you defending WG is fully looking into the situation nor have done much research

Just about every point you have made can be countered with evidence in the form of testimony or past WG related history/actions

The first post here, is that your evidence? Gee, that's something. A company lied to you? Here's a secret - every company lies. Every single one of them. They are all cynical asf. Don't act like you are 12 year old virgin. They all want money. So if you spent something and got not what you expected to get - that's on you, not the company.

thats not how it works if you pay for a product and dont get what was offered you are entitled to your money back, falce advertising is illegal in many countrys

[Amigo]

Escrito originalmente por gibbamon:

Escrito originalmente por Amigo:

The first post here, is that your evidence? Gee, that's something. A company lied to you? Here's a secret - every company lies. Every single one of them. They are all cynical asf. Don't act like you are 12 year old virgin. They all want money. So if you spent something and got not what you expected to get - that's on you, not the company.

thats not how it works if you pay for a product and dont get what was offered you are entitled to your money back, falce advertising is illegal in many countrys

And what were they false advertising? They sell lootboxes like many other companies do. If they put the wrong words in a descriprion that doesn't change the fact that it's a lootbox.

[Anni]

yet ur still here so stop crying about it

[Chiron]

Don't ya just hate the paid shills from WG......chatbote, dog, amigo....others...you don't have a say. Your just paid zombies!!!