Just give carriers 2D spotting

[Harker]

While I appreciate all the concepts behind the announced carrier changes, we really don't need all of it. The main mechanics work almost fine as they are. The 3D spotting for carrier planes just need to go away and it would fix 90% of the issues with the class. Just make it to where carrier controlled planes can only 2D spot on the minimap. Hell, you can even compromise and make it to where they only 3D spot when on an attack run and it would be alright I guess. We don't need all the half dozen mechanics proposed to fix a relatively non-existent issue.

But yes, 3D carrier plane spotting needs to go away immediately.

[Ace42]

Yep - cyclone spotting is really all that's needed.

No idea why WG are so resistant to this.

Like, can their spaghetti code not handle cyclone spotting for planes if there's also an actual cyclone happening in the match or something? Surely not - subs cyclone-spot with their tools don't they?

Is there an issue with hacks rendering cyclone-invisible ships that could be mass-exploited if someone queues with a CV? Maybe, but surely that's an argument against the mechanic for regular cyclones / subs too?

Also, the "planes get shot down faster if they focus a target" concept seems a bit janky - when ships were blobbing AA was a relatively impenetrable auto-nuke; surely if planes are just hanging around in an AA bubble and this is causing the AA to ramp up, multiple ships overlapping their AA will all get the same effect simultaneously?

Is it going to be "taking damage from planes gives a temporary AA buff"? If so that's just insane - like do Russian CVs just not have to deal with that because of the downtime between alpha strikes? Does it reset if the CV hits someone else?
Promoting "chaining" is alright, a bit - but killing the isolated enemies threatening your teammates with a crossfire is a relatively high priority for a CV (next to killing the DDs / subs and perma spotting island campers).

But I suspect it's going to change beyond all recognition before it hits the live servers anyway - but meh, one more reason for me not to bother finishing my guide if the entire CV section's just gonna straight up become obsolete down the line.