I can't get into the ship's citadel

[Покайся грешник]

According to the challenge, I need to get to the citadel. And I need to do this on the Cruiser. But after 9 fights, I never got into the citadel. Not even once. I shot from 130mm, 152mm, 203mm. Nothing helped. What have the developers done to improve the likelihood of getting into the citadel?

[bstangeby]

What challenge is that?

[Engine-ear]

Citadels usually using AP shells and the ship being broadside in mostly near the middle (it means showing it's sides towards you). Although not all ships are the same so not all can be easily broadside and and not all ships need you to use AP to citadel them.

Also check you mission again for the icons if it only includes Random battles and Ranked.

[Dee-Jay]

I always used to farm citadels by picking German T6 Nurnberg and taking it into co-op. That ship can rack up tons of cruiser citadel hits from broadside shots from <10km - the bot ships sailing straight ahead make it easy in co-op.

[Покайся грешник]

1. I know that I need to shoot armor-piercing shells. I know I have to shoot at the side of the ship
2. according to the challenge, I have to do the task on a Tier 8 Cruiser (or higher), in battle with live players

[juujbee]

most citadels are at or behind second smoke stack although a few are more toward the back or front of ship shooting just above the water line is usually most effective if you are in a cruiser you have a better chance against another broadside cruiser and the bigger guns help

[Dee-Jay]

Originally posted by Покайся грешник:

1. I know that I need to shoot armor-piercing shells. I know I have to shoot at the side of the ship
2. according to the challenge, I have to do the task on a Tier 8 Cruiser (or higher), in battle with live players

OK you want a ship with good AP penetration (at a viable range)
and any other pen buff e.g. improved angles, threshold, fuse timers

Soviet cruisers
Tallinn-Riga-Petro
Donskoi and Nevsky can do it as well but with less potency
Stalingrad is great for this (if you have it). So are Kronstadt, Sevastopol and Moskva,

US heavy cruisers
Baltimore-Buffalo-Des Moines
Alaska (if you have it)

French super heavy cruisers
Cherbourg-Marseille

German ships
Siegfried
Aegir
Schill

Others
Tianjin (if you have it)

[Dee-Jay]

Originally posted by Dee-Jay:

Originally posted by Покайся грешник:

1. I know that I need to shoot armor-piercing shells. I know I have to shoot at the side of the ship
2. according to the challenge, I have to do the task on a Tier 8 Cruiser (or higher), in battle with live players

OK you want a ship with good AP penetration (at a viable range)
and any other pen buff e.g. improved angles, threshold, fuse timers

Soviet cruisers
Tallinn-Riga-Petro
Donskoi and Nevsky can do it as well but with less potency
Stalingrad is great for this (if you have it). So are Kronstadt, Sevastopol and Moskva,

US heavy cruisers
Baltimore-Buffalo-Des Moines
Alaska (if you have it)

French super heavy cruisers
Cherbourg-Marseille

German ships
Siegfried
Aegir
Schill

Others
Tianjin (if you have it)

I would play Stalingrad as it can crack citadels from anywhere, even some of the heavier targets.
If you don’t have Stalingrad, I’d try Petro or one of the US heavy cruisers which need to be closer but can eat citadels with their improved penetration angles

[Ace42]

How I do the citadel hit cruiser missions when they come up:

Pick a ship with decent AP pen (no point in throwing soggy noodles) and decent speed (no point in trying to cit something that's gonna die before you get there). Bayard excels.
Load up co-op and speed towards a light / super-light cruiser full speed (Bayard has speed boost, yum) yolo.
Do a drive by and hit citadels (Bayard has reload booster).

To hit citadels - you need to make sure you're shooting at targets that don't have citadel protection (so not something with turtle back, such as German BBs / cruisers; not something with sloped citadels; not something with underwater citadels that you can't penetrate through the water).
Go into tech-tree, pick a tier-appropriate cruiser and preview it in port - go to armour viewer and toggle off visibility of all parts of the armour scheme apart from "Vital Parts" - mouseover the armour panels and read the tooltip - if they say "citadel armour" that's the box you want to be aiming at.

Range to target will effect penetration (closer means more pen, obv), as well as angle of impact; and there's a trade-off between heavy shells with good pen and high alpha - that will only grant a few citadel ribbons due to you killing the enemy ships with alpha; and lower calibre shells that have less alpha and thus will generate more ribbons because more shells are needed to kill.

[Покайся грешник]

Originally posted by Dee-Jay:

OK you want a ship with good AP penetration (at a viable range)
and any other pen buff e.g. improved angles, threshold, fuse timers

Soviet cruisers
Tallinn-Riga-Petro
Donskoi and Nevsky can do it as well but with less potency
Stalingrad is great for this (if you have it). So are Kronstadt, Sevastopol and Moskva,

US heavy cruisers
Baltimore-Buffalo-Des Moines
Alaska (if you have it)

French super heavy cruisers
Cherbourg-Marseille

German ships
Siegfried
Aegir
Schill

Others
Tianjin (if you have it)

Thank you. I will try

[~T~D~]

Originally posted by Покайся грешник:

According to the challenge, I need to get to the citadel. And I need to do this on the Cruiser. But after 9 fights, I never got into the citadel. Not even once. I shot from 130mm, 152mm, 203mm. Nothing helped. What have the developers done to improve the likelihood of getting into the citadel?

U know u can click choose battle and do training room right?

[Nepgear]

https://www.devstrike.net/topic/435-what-is-a-citadel-and-why-should-i-care-lert

[Покайся грешник]

I did it! first hit in the citadel! Tallinn! What’s interesting is that I ended up in the citadel of the battleship, but I couldn’t get into the citadel of the cruiser.

[Ace42]

Originally posted by Покайся грешник:

I did it! first hit in the citadel! Tallinn! What’s interesting is that I ended up in the citadel of the battleship, but I couldn’t get into the citadel of the cruiser.

Some cruisers have turtleback armour that will bounce shells away from citadel; ditto for sloped citadel plates.
If the citadel is below the water level for a cruiser, you're going to have shells bounce off the citadel roof or just miss it entirely.

Depending on the arming threshold for the AP shell in question, some AP will only have hit enough metal to arm *on their way out the other side of the citadel*.

Sometimes you need to arm on water vs super-lights.

[Jackson]

Originally posted by ~T~D~:

Originally posted by Покайся грешник:

According to the challenge, I need to get to the citadel. And I need to do this on the Cruiser. But after 9 fights, I never got into the citadel. Not even once. I shot from 130mm, 152mm, 203mm. Nothing helped. What have the developers done to improve the likelihood of getting into the citadel?

U know u can click choose battle and do training room right?

Not sure how that will help the OP really. Training room doesn't help you with missions and it won't help you learn to target players either.

Originally posted by Покайся грешник:

What have the developers done to improve the likelihood of getting into the citadel?

Nothing. It's not supposed to be particularly easy. There's good advice in the posts above though. Getting citadels from a cruiser in PvP can be kind of hard.

[Data-7]

Originally posted by Покайся грешник:

According to the challenge, I need to get to the citadel. And I need to do this on the Cruiser. But after 9 fights, I never got into the citadel. Not even once. I shot from 130mm, 152mm, 203mm. Nothing helped. What have the developers done to improve the likelihood of getting into the citadel?

Aim a bit more up than the waterline. i had also 10 in a single battle

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198008112110/screenshot/2476491741625353566/