Random _ Sub Battle 1 on 1 WTF

[Alandrea]

Need I say more this is at least the third time I went into a random battle with a sub and ended up with a shoot out at the OK coral 1 on 1 wtf that is not even a brawl type.

[Banzai]

I can certainly see this happening if you are playing a low tier sub in the middle of the night since there will be next to no other people you can be pared with. All it takes is for one of you to be queuing for a while for a queue dump to happen, so you could be instantly thrown into a match if another sub has been waiting for long enough.

[Blue]

It's funny.

[Jackson]

Can't say I'm sorry to hear that...

But serious, there should be bots in the matches if it can't match up. That's how it always works for me on NA with other ships. Haven't tried subs.

[christof]

Publicado originalmente por Jackson:

Can't say I'm sorry to hear that...

But serious, there should be bots in the matches if it can't match up. That's how it always works for me on NA with other ships. Haven't tried subs.

Not if you play too high a tier though. Granted, the smallest Random battle I've ever seen a screen from was 3v3.

[Jackson]

Publicado originalmente por christof:

Publicado originalmente por Jackson:

Can't say I'm sorry to hear that...

But serious, there should be bots in the matches if it can't match up. That's how it always works for me on NA with other ships. Haven't tried subs.

Not if you play too high a tier though. Granted, the smallest Random battle I've ever seen a screen from was 3v3.

I have seen a 1v1 once or twice. I don't think it's supposed to happen.

True, at higher tiers they're usually full anyway though.

[Elesh Norn]

Gotta say the idea of 1v1 subs in brawl sounds nice.
I am not much of a sub player but for training to counter other subs and for the lolz I would do it!

Although you would need to be either always visible submerged or only have a 5 min time to cap one point to make it interesting.

[Ace42]

Publicado originalmente por Elesh Norn:

Gotta say the idea of 1v1 subs in brawl sounds nice.
I am not much of a sub player but for training to counter other subs and for the lolz I would do it!

Wouldn't be a lot of fun.

Without teammates to punish surfaced subs, it comes down to outspotting - which S-189 will always wins; and if players try to dive to avoid that, it becomes a quickdraw on Sub Surveillance consumable - which S-189 with the sub surveillance cooldown upgrade and CO skill will always win.

Once they get too close together the reduced damage from shotgunning nerf makes it a mess - and precludes equal-depth blindfire that used to be a way of using skill to outplay the "bait-out-the-DCP" minigame.

Even if you don't have S-189 just hard-winning, the enhanced upgrade and consumable are always mandatory even if you've got the best surface detection; and Alliance is right behind S-189 ready to make its excellent homing torp tracking a no-fun warhead against everything else.

Not really ideal gameplay - which is a bit of a bummer considering how important and essential taking out the enemy sub early is for winning regular Randoms as a sub.

[sneakybass]

I kind of would like to see subs vs subs maybe three or four to a side maybe more If enough people would play.

[Hiei]

Publicado originalmente por sneakybass:

I kind of would like to see subs vs subs maybe three or four to a side maybe more If enough people would play.

I have a strong feeling that "An all sub vs all sub" game mode would be pretty underwhelming.
It's a bit like "All CV vs CV"

You'd have a ton of Subs and they'd either try to completely avoid each other the whole match (Unlike surface ships this is sorta easy to do) And you'd so rarely see another sub it'd take forever to move the game forward.

Also torp dodging would be pretty easy too.

If such a game mode did happen I'd also unfortunately expect German subs to be best, since they have the longest Submarine surveillance which would vastly hinder the others
Though UK subs or others with a primary battery might do well if they avoided going under water and just tried to gun the others.

[Blue]

Publicado originalmente por Hiei:

Publicado originalmente por sneakybass:

I kind of would like to see subs vs subs maybe three or four to a side maybe more If enough people would play.

I have a strong feeling that "An all sub vs all sub" game mode would be pretty underwhelming.
It's a bit like "All CV vs CV"

Sub vs DD would be great.