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ARMOURY SHIP CHOICE REQUEST
I've saved up enough coal to be able to buy a premium ship in the armoury.
Which one should i get?

-Ägir
-G. Kürfürst
-Anhalt
-Pommern
-Immelman
-Yoshino
-Iwami
-Kearsarge
PLEASE LEAVE YOUR OPINION IN THE COMMENTS
Last edited by VON_Raymond; Jan 27 @ 10:10am
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christof Jan 29 @ 8:23pm 
Ever since a container dropped me Iwami B, I have one specced for main guns and one for secondaries. :wowshehe:
Which do you prefer? Im going to get a Iwami soon so info would be good for me.
Ace42 Jan 30 @ 1:04am 
Originally posted by Jaynoble55:
Which do you prefer? Im going to get a Iwami soon so info would be good for me.

I go secondary spec on Iwami - there's already a ton of IJN BBs (including T9 prems) that do the same thing with regular builds, let alone from different nations. Hizen; Bajie for Panasian; Izumo; Musashi is a bit of a different beast, but not that different.
We've got the entire tech-tree battlecruiser line for main-gun squishy builds, which are distinct but offer same sort of value.

Unless you're really specifically interested in combining a regular build BB with the long-range torps, there's not a ton of reason to pick Iwami over the alternatives; whereas with secondary build you've at least got the hitting DPM (only Navarin is better in the tier) even if the range isn't stellar.

I'm secondary spec with Daisen too (and Ignis Purgatio - but I've got like half-a-dozen Amagi hulls, so that's more for novelty's sake than a serious build).
Last edited by Ace42; Jan 30 @ 1:06am
I didn't think I should go deeper in why I recommend iwami over pommern.
Iwami's superstructure is not as big as pommern, still big but pommern's massive + iwami got a lil bit better concealment (these 2 quirks seems superficial at first glance, and I thought I didn't need to mention those). Iwami slightly better (imo*) but biggest difference is long range torps. (secondary effectiveness is also similar although iwami's range is smaller on that front)

I mention it can be played like a classic bb (japanese) so I didn't think I need to go in detail about main guns. Classic japanese main guns. They are good and bigger at all tiers (unless imaginary ships enters the room).

*Both ship got their strengths and weaknesses in comparison, pommern's hydro (I forgot) and iwami's long range torps are biggest differences. But Pommern is overall on the weakside, again, because the most free dmg farm ship for the enemy. I always smile when I see pommern in front of me. That's the biggest part why I recommend iwami over pompom. Turtleback didn't even get the chance to be useful.
Originally posted by Ace42:
Originally posted by Jaynoble55:
Which do you prefer? Im going to get a Iwami soon so info would be good for me.

I go secondary spec on Iwami - there's already a ton of IJN BBs (including T9 prems) that do the same thing with regular builds, let alone from different nations. Hizen; Bajie for Panasian; Izumo; Musashi is a bit of a different beast, but not that different.
We've got the entire tech-tree battlecruiser line for main-gun squishy builds, which are distinct but offer same sort of value.

Unless you're really specifically interested in combining a regular build BB with the long-range torps, there's not a ton of reason to pick Iwami over the alternatives; whereas with secondary build you've at least got the hitting DPM (only Navarin is better in the tier) even if the range isn't stellar.

I'm secondary spec with Daisen too (and Ignis Purgatio - but I've got like half-a-dozen Amagi hulls, so that's more for novelty's sake than a serious build).

Yea, your right. I dont have a Mush but there are other alternatives. Interestingly I do have a Daisen as well and its secondary but I feel the Iwami is going to play different.
Originally posted by AllahDiyenKirpi:
I didn't think I should go deeper in why I recommend iwami over pommern.
Iwami's superstructure is not as big as pommern, still big but pommern's massive + iwami got a lil bit better concealment (these 2 quirks seems superficial at first glance, and I thought I didn't need to mention those). Iwami slightly better (imo*) but biggest difference is long range torps. (secondary effectiveness is also similar although iwami's range is smaller on that front)

I mention it can be played like a classic bb (japanese) so I didn't think I need to go in detail about main guns. Classic japanese main guns. They are good and bigger at all tiers (unless imaginary ships enters the room).

*Both ship got their strengths and weaknesses in comparison, pommern's hydro (I forgot) and iwami's long range torps are biggest differences. But Pommern is overall on the weakside, again, because the most free dmg farm ship for the enemy. I always smile when I see pommern in front of me. That's the biggest part why I recommend iwami over pompom. Turtleback didn't even get the chance to be useful.

For PvE (those who do ops or asyms) I feel Pom edges out Iwami since bots tend to not focus on superstructure as much. Which is the main detraction from the Pom as you have said.


That being said I have no idea why German BB'a had such giant SS''s in real life. Ingame I guess its a intended weakness but I feel German BBs have enough draw backs. IF there is a saturation mechanic for SS's ingame it needs a better formula. French DD formulas would work :P :D
Ace42 Jan 30 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by Jaynoble55:
Yea, your right. I dont have a Mush but there are other alternatives. Interestingly I do have a Daisen as well and its secondary but I feel the Iwami is going to play different.

Yeah Daisen and Iwami are similar yet distinct.

Daisen's got the speed and nimbleness, but is squishier, so has to pick its battles and approach more selectively (and the torps are a bit different).
2ndry Daisen is *great* in Asym though, because of the speed.

Iwami's a bit closer to Pommern in that it's big lumbering but tankier.

Both have funky angles where they bait you into overangling to get 100% DPM out of secondaries (or torps); but where you can safely get good damage out of them whilst properly angled - and if you can get both sides going simultaneously without getting out-farmed then it more than makes up for what DPM you're losing by not over-angling.

For example Daisen's torp-angles are terrible if you're trying to get both tubes on one single side off simultaneously; but if you're trying to get both fronts or both backs off instead then you can do it somewhat safely with a wiggle (although it's still not ideal angles).

If you can read the situation and anticipate the timing right, getting that little extra DPM out of the secondaries against targets that can't punish your broadside; or getting a double-torp salvo off safely; can be quite satisfying and a way to squeeze every little bit extra performance out of the ships.
Last edited by Ace42; Jan 30 @ 3:29am
Pommern and Iwami are both good choices as credit farmers for a first coal ship.

( Up to T9, coal ships have an in built credit boost, T10 doesn't anymore. Obviously you'll want to run a blue or better booster with a T9 coal ship to earn max credits. Can reasonably get a million a match with blue, more with better booster. )

Pommern is a bit more in your face brawling style, while Iwami is more of a sniper, kinda like the IJN tech tree bbs as well. With a secondary build, Pommern is probably the easiest farming ship in Ops, asymmetric and so on. In PvP modes it depends a lot on preferred playstyle, I think both ships are roughly on the same level there. Original poster likes brawling, so that's definitely the Pommern.

Anyone who can be bothered to deal with planes should have a look at the Kearsarge though. I just recently got it myself and oh my, all the videos claiming its ridiculousness...are entirely correct. The guns alone are crazy already, they penetrate everything, from all angles. Add the spotting and comparatively easy rocket planes and this boat is just nuts.

If it's not about credit farming I think the Napoli needs a mention. Or two. She's a fantastic boat all around, just doesn't come with the in-built credit bonus.
You know, I struggled with Napoli in Asym's. Not sure why. Didnt do bad or anything, just I know im not meeting its potential. In pvp I have never played it. I have enough problems with the ships i currently do play :(
Originally posted by Jaynoble55:
You know, I struggled with Napoli in Asym's. Not sure why. Didnt do bad or anything, just I know im not meeting its potential. In pvp I have never played it. I have enough problems with the ships i currently do play :(

Just need to play a little more on the defense in asymmetric, you can't go all out. Cruisers in PvP generally don't do that well, the Napoli being fairly sturdy is fine though, very popular choice in matches it is permitted.
Ace42 Feb 10 @ 3:21am 
Originally posted by Jaynoble55:
You know, I struggled with Napoli in Asym's. Not sure why.

Can see what I've been doing in 2ndry focused heavy cruisers (Schroder) as a baseline, and build off of that - auto-generated videos with each replay listed here:
https://replayswows.com/profile/519349838/sort/uploaded_at.desc/battle_type/7,11/video/1/

Napoli's obviously got the torps and the smokescreen to make some more aggressive plays and thus gain some bonus impact in a way that Schroder can't, but next time Asym's up can practice incrementally increasing aggression and risk taking as you gain confidence.
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