Only playing with bots

[Aldo Raine]

Hi, i played World of Warships many years ago. Now i came back to play again on steam. I grinded to Tier V, but every round i play with max. 1-2 real players.

Is this game dead on steam or what

[Blue]

It's just low tier.

[Ace42]

Originally posted by Aldo Raine:

Hi, i played World of Warships many years ago. Now i came back to play again on steam. I grinded to Tier V, but every round i play with max. 1-2 real players.

Is this game dead on steam or what

If you're in T5 you're out of protected match-making, so should start seeing more human players - at T6 you should see no bots whatsoever.

There's some limited-time PvE game modes active right now (Asym, and Flagship Ops) that are probably sucking a ton of players out of the Randoms queue (make sure you're queueing for randoms not a PvE game mode if you want humans in your matches, obv - last guy who claimed a ghost-town was queued for co-op), so YMMV.

[christof]

Also you're not playing a different game or even just on different servers when playing over Steam. That was the game as a whole you saw.
However as someone starting a new account, your first 200 battles (as long as you play below tier V) will be in protected matchmaking, where you will only meet other new accounts. And even once you're out of that, you will still see a decent amount of bots up to tier V, since most players with the option usually play above that. And only stay in I to IV (and to a limited degree tier V) when they have to because they are grinding out a new (or regrinding a reset) tech tree. Or have some special combat mission sending them that way.

[†KHETTI†]

Originally posted by Aldo Raine:

Hi, i played World of Warships many years ago. Now i came back to play again on steam. I grinded to Tier V, but every round i play with max. 1-2 real players.

Is this game dead on steam or what

You didn't happen to play mechwarrior online Aldo?, i'm pretty sure i was in a clan with an Aldo Raine for bit before i quit. As for WoWs population, it's fallen off a lot since Wargaming introduced their CV rework and added subs, bots are common at tier 5 and below, if you are playing in the NA region the situation is worse.

[Jackson]

Originally posted by †KHETTI†:

Originally posted by Aldo Raine:

Hi, i played World of Warships many years ago. Now i came back to play again on steam. I grinded to Tier V, but every round i play with max. 1-2 real players.

Is this game dead on steam or what

You didn't happen to play mechwarrior online Aldo?, i'm pretty sure i was in a clan with an Aldo Raine for bit before i quit. As for WoWs population, it's fallen off a lot since Wargaming introduced their CV rework and added subs, bots are common at tier 5 and below, if you are playing in the NA region the situation is worse.

The population isn't down significantly. It did go down quite a bit after subs, but then subs brought in a lot of players too. It's back up relatively close to where it was previously. The CV rework didn't really affect the population much.

[Aldo Raine]

Originally posted by †KHETTI†:

Originally posted by Aldo Raine:

Hi, i played World of Warships many years ago. Now i came back to play again on steam. I grinded to Tier V, but every round i play with max. 1-2 real players.

Is this game dead on steam or what

You didn't happen to play mechwarrior online Aldo?, i'm pretty sure i was in a clan with an Aldo Raine for bit before i quit. As for WoWs population, it's fallen off a lot since Wargaming introduced their CV rework and added subs, bots are common at tier 5 and below, if you are playing in the NA region the situation is worse.

No sorry, didn't play mechwarrior

[Aldo Raine]

Okay, i will play some more hours. Hoping i will see more real players in Tier 6.

Thank you

[Aldo Raine]

And as someone who played some years ago, i'm shocked how bad new aircraftcarrier system is. I was very hyped for it and now i'm very sad... But thats another topic...

[Hiei]

Originally posted by Aldo Raine:

And as someone who played some years ago, i'm shocked how bad new aircraftcarrier system is. I was very hyped for it and now i'm very sad... But thats another topic...

How are you hyped for it but haven't played in years?

[christof]

Carrier rework was what? Four and a half years ago?

[†KHETTI†]

Originally posted by Jackson:

Originally posted by †KHETTI†:

You didn't happen to play mechwarrior online Aldo?, i'm pretty sure i was in a clan with an Aldo Raine for bit before i quit. As for WoWs population, it's fallen off a lot since Wargaming introduced their CV rework and added subs, bots are common at tier 5 and below, if you are playing in the NA region the situation is worse.

The population isn't down significantly. It did go down quite a bit after subs, but then subs brought in a lot of players too. It's back up relatively close to where it was previously. The CV rework didn't really affect the population much.

Dude i know you're a WG rentboy, but you are just lying to yourself and others, merging players from the RU server after the split with lesta is why it appears to have gone back up. Plently people have gone through this in detail and the game IS haemorrhaging players and has been for years, especially on the higher player skill level.
EU used to average between 40-50k players at peak times for the first 3/4 years after beta, now EU rarely makes 20k players at peak times, and that's even with all the players that have moved from CIS, NA and Asia (NA/Asia server are practically dead servers at this point).

[Jackson]

Originally posted by †KHETTI†:

Originally posted by Jackson:

The population isn't down significantly. It did go down quite a bit after subs, but then subs brought in a lot of players too. It's back up relatively close to where it was previously. The CV rework didn't really affect the population much.

Dude i know you're a WG rentboy, but you are just lying to yourself and others, merging players from the RU server after the split with lesta is why it appears to have gone back up. Plently people have gone through this in detail and the game IS haemorrhaging players and has been for years, especially on the higher player skill level.
EU used to average between 40-50k players at peak times for the first 3/4 years after beta, now EU rarely makes 20k players at peak times, and that's even with all the players that have moved from CIS, NA and Asia (NA/Asia server are practically dead servers at this point).

Where's your stats?

By far the largest sustained loss the game has had was subs. Nearly 20% drop. But over a few months that came back up. I forget when it exactly it was, maybe last Christmas, we had a record player number. I haven't heard how successful (or not) this last Christmas was.

But until you have stats to show, you're just blowing smoke. (Don't forget Steam stats don't count by themselves). Most players use the Wargaming Client, but we also have players on Steam, MS Store and Epic.

[christof]

Originally posted by †KHETTI†:

Originally posted by Jackson:

The population isn't down significantly. It did go down quite a bit after subs, but then subs brought in a lot of players too. It's back up relatively close to where it was previously. The CV rework didn't really affect the population much.

Dude i know you're a WG rentboy, but you are just lying to yourself and others, merging players from the RU server after the split with lesta is why it appears to have gone back up.

You have your timeline wrong here. The merger did go down before subs were introduced permanently. So the numbers going down then up again after the latter happened can't be explained away with the CIS servers being split off and players choosing to migrate from there. Which at least partially devaluates your whole statement.

You ARE correct that the game is haemorrhaging players. However it is going at a far slower rate than is often claimed. And also a completely natural process for an MMO the age of WoWs. In a community forum for WoWs I frequent there's a guy hellbent on proving that the game is quickly dying, so he started collecting average weekly player numbers. By his count, the game has lost a total of just under 6,4% of its players on EU over the full course of 2024. And could afford the same losses in absolute numbers for another six to seven years before reaching the player numbers I've been hearing for NA from players checking there around December.

So yes, it IS dying. But slowly and won't actually be dead for a lot of years to come. What seems to have increased is the turnover rate of players. But in regards to the health of the game, that is not actually a problem as long as you keep getting enough new players in and/or former players back.

Originally posted by †KHETTI†:

and that's even with all the players that have moved from CIS, NA and Asia (NA/Asia server are practically dead servers at this point).

We've already covered CIS and I must put heavy doubt on the other two servers losing players to EU, at the very least in any numbers that aren't completely negligible.

[Jackson]

Well, especially since you can't move to EU unless you can show that you moved to the EU. You'd have to start over completely. They only do migrations in special circumstances - such as you being military or just moving to another country - or the case with the separate from Russian/Balarus. Very few people would want to start over completely just to move servers. Esp when the ping would be worse.

[lunsmann]

Asia server is hardly dead. 17k players most nights (my time zone) seems fine to me. Only low tiers struggle to fill teams, but thats well documented because weegee insist on making everything dependant in T5 and above. Only the 3 daily crates can be earned in low tiers.