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arjensmit79 Jan 2 @ 6:19pm
I read on reddit about the Z-57
Omg, this must be a joke right ?
Last edited by arjensmit79; Jan 2 @ 9:31pm
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Nepgear Jan 2 @ 6:48pm 
It's so stupid.
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Hiei Jan 2 @ 6:55pm 
I don't see the big deal, it's another super ship?
Super ships are pretty over rated.
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Banzai Jan 2 @ 7:07pm 
Seems a pretty logical next step for that lines T11. The 7km hydro is the standout feature (which is also being given to Hannover and maybe Clauswitz?) but otherwise its not that ridiculous when you compare it to existing superships.
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arjensmit79 Jan 2 @ 7:08pm 
7km hydro on a DD sure sounds rediculous to me.
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Banzai Jan 2 @ 7:17pm 
Standard German hydro is 6km though. Its an upgrade but still functionally much the same at a tier where there is an awful lot of radar around.
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Jackson Jan 2 @ 7:21pm 
Originally posted by arjensmit79:
7km hydro on a DD sure sounds rediculous to me.
It fits with T11. Almost all of them are ridiculous and unnecessary. Just don't play them if you don't want them. Seeing them in a T10 is no dif than seeing a 10 in a 9 etc.
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Nepgear Jan 2 @ 7:28pm 
Originally posted by Banzai:
Standard German hydro is 6km though. Its an upgrade but still functionally much the same at a tier where there is an awful lot of radar around.
If its concealment was >7km maybe. I think they're just trying to power creep smaland.
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arjensmit79 Jan 2 @ 8:34pm 
Originally posted by Nepgear:
Originally posted by Banzai:
Standard German hydro is 6km though. Its an upgrade but still functionally much the same at a tier where there is an awful lot of radar around.
If its concealment was >7km maybe. I think they're just trying to power creep smaland.

Yes thats what it seems like.
If this really makes it into the game, it will probably be the only supership ill buy and use.
It does reduce my urge to get smaland.

So sure i'll use it, but that doesn't mean i dont think its rediculous.
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R[e]venge®-uk* Jan 2 @ 8:37pm 
I cannot Wait!!!! My new love!!
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Blue Jan 3 @ 5:35am 
7km hydro sounds extreme.

It will at least make playing Marcau easier as now all DD have to worry about being spotted at 7km.
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~T~D~ Jan 3 @ 8:05am 
What will the duration be? 7km seems to much even 6 km is crazy.
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Banzai Jan 3 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by ~T~D~:
What will the duration be? 7km seems to much even 6 km is crazy.
Its all in the devblog:

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/closed-test-141-new-ships

The hydro lasts 120s at the moment but obviously that can be modified with signals etc. Its subject to change anyway since its not even entered testing as yet. Its the sort of thing that people will have to play around and im sure that some will messup against it while unaware of its stats but tbh in a tier spread that includes Anapolis and super CVs I cant say it sounds that silly.
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Jackson Jan 3 @ 9:03am 
It's really no different than Russian cruisers suddenly coming out with 12km radar. Bunch of people got upset with that, but now no one cares.
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arjensmit79 Jan 3 @ 9:19am 
Im pretty confident the future is going to prove you wrong jackson.

I dont see the issue with all the supercruisers anyway. If a cruiser spots me, i'm pretty much toast anyway, no matter if its super or not. I do care about a DD that will see me while i can't see it, and that can smoke up and still see me. And those russian 12km cruisers, yes, you need to be careful before you know where they are. And when you do, you spot them from a safe place and press F3 on them until your team kills them. None of that will apply to this. You cannot spot the Z57 because it spots you long before you spot it.

Note that this has a multitude of advantages over the "normal" smoke+radar DD. A radar DD only really works great if you predict where you are going to meet the enemy DD so you can slow down and smoke up instantly if you spot each other rather than having speed which you first need to lose before you can smoke up, which usually means losing a big portion of your hitpoints. And then, you need to worry about the torps being fired at your smoke.

All of those issues are not there for the Z57. The Z57 will be able to first spot the enemy, before it is spotted. It can then reduce speed and smoke up before it opens fire. And it needs not worry about the torps because it sees them already when they are fired.
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Banzai Jan 3 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by arjensmit79:
Im pretty confident the future is going to prove you wrong jackson.
Important to note that it doesnt have a heal or a huge HP pool. And once again its an MM bracket thats pretty much guaranteed to contain radar.. Dont get me wrong - from experience it can be painful to be caught by a German DD hydroing you from smoke, but unless you have horribly messed up it tends to be possible to escape its range. Wont be too much different here, especially if you know its nearby. Time will tell anyway.

Edit: As for the parts you added to the above post, its not got great surface stealth. Fully specced it will be something around 6.4km (im sure someone can check my maths on this lol) so is outstealthed by a lot of DDs in its spread. If its moving in at a crawl to hydro and smoke when it acquires a target then the opponent will be right at the edge of its range and will have no trouble disengaging.
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