Watched a hack tonight

[JoeGunn]

Was dead viewing a mate's battleship. Saw a destroyer burn it down with a nonstop volley of shots. Unlimited ammo with no reload time. Just a stream of shots until the Battleship was sunk.

[Jackson]

Yea that's not a hack. There's a half dozen DD's that can do that. They're kind of annoying imo. With a fast enough reload plus using ripple fire it's pretty much a constant stream.

[Hiei]

...That isn't a hack, none of the ships run out of ammo.
That was just a really fast firing gunboat.
Unless there is more than what you're saying.

[Banzai]

Originally posted by JoeGunn:

Was dead viewing a mate's battleship. Saw a destroyer burn it down with a nonstop volley of shots. Unlimited ammo with no reload time. Just a stream of shots until the Battleship was sunk.

As mentioned above, ammo isnt a thing and theres various DDs that have very high rates of fire, even at lower tiers. Plus if they were ripple firing (ie holding M1 instead of volleying) it would look even faster since the first gun would likely be reloaded when the last gun fired so it would appear to be continuous.

[Grendel_the_Wise]

The Minotaur is capable of it. I love watching the AP rainbow coming down on a ship.

[Nepgear]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Is there ANY Ship with a Reload time of 0.1s at all?
Even with Skills, I don't think ANY Ship can quite pull that out of the Bag. Sure, maybe as low as 2s, or even 1.7s, but not 0.1s. I think this is what he's on about.

Fastest reload is ~0.7s on F. Sherman, which still makes for an infinite barrage.

[jaquig]

I got melted badly by a Friesland earlier, nonstop shells coming from the dd. Only survived it by getting something between us they couldn't shoot over.

[Banzai]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

I've had a situation recently where I got Erased (as a CV), by a DD. From FULL HP to NO HP in under 1.7 Seconds.

Sorry, but just no on this one. I am going to assume the 1.7secs is a typo. 17seconds is possible if playing a lightly armored CV and they knew where to citadel you with AP and were playing something fast firing. With 8 barrels in your "example" they would need a reload of just over 3 secs to fire 40 rounds in your (I assume) 17 seconds. Not possible in 1.7s.

The other alternative is that something else was hitting you that you didnt notice, which isnt beyond the realms of possibility.

[Banzai]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by Banzai:

Sorry, but just no on this one. I am going to assume the 1.7secs is a typo. 17seconds is possible if playing a lightly armored CV and they knew where to citadel you with AP and were playing something fast firing. With 8 barrels in your "example" they would need a reload of just over 3 secs to fire 40 rounds in your (I assume) 17 seconds. Not possible in 1.7s.

The other alternative is that something else was hitting you that you didnt notice, which isnt beyond the realms of possibility.

NO, it's not a Typo at all.

That is ONE point SEVEN, you read that correctly.

Then replay please or you are massively exaggerating or were being shot by something else that you didnt notice.

[Jackson]

Someone asked for a replay, still waiting... Replays almost always explain everything easily. No need to debate it ad nauseum.

[Jackson]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by Jackson:

Someone asked for a replay, still waiting... Replays almost always explain everything easily. No need to debate it ad nauseum.

The Replay File is not available, as the Game's Replays have reached their Limit, and thus, it was deleted by the Game. No, I didn't save it outside of the Directory at the time.

However, if you have the Ship, you could test it yourself:
Tier: X
Nation: Spanish
Class: Destroyer
Ship: Álvaro De Bazán

Unfortunately, I don't own the ship myself, so I can't test it using a proper build. However, I'm sure that someone could check it, if they owned the Ship.

I was using the Tier X Nakhimov, and was eaten alive within a short space of time. Frames were dropped, though 0.7s does seem to be a lot of Dropped Frames.

Yea, remember it's all done on the server, so what actually happened wouldn't be affected by such things. Anyway, too bad about the replay.

[Banzai]

Alvaro can put out a lot of shells with burst fire but its a maximum of 3 volleys with a reload of 1.2s between them (and less if they had adren rush on their captain and they had taken significant damage earlier) but that doesnt change the fact its a maximum of 24 shells and then they have a 28s reload time after the burst fire has done its thing. You seem to have realised that now which explains the confusion you caused about your previous claims which were impossible.

And the replay is corrupted and yet you could check the amount of hits? Hmmm. Anyway, yes Alvaro and Zorkiy could do that with burst fire I guess (but are the only DDs in the game that could). Kind of emphasises the point about dealing with DDs and not being in bad positions when playing CV.

Well played that Alvaro.

Edit: Out of curiosity I went and tried it - best I managed with one lot of burst fire was 20 citadels (and a couple of overpens and non pens) which dealt 51k on a Nakhimov, so unless the Alvaro guy was using Super Heavy AP (a rather questionable captain skill on a DD although not unheard of on that ship) it seems you were shot by something else as well or werent on full HP as you claimed to be.

[Hiei]

AGT I'm Going to start calling BS on any "OMG HACKERS" By anyone who doesn't provide a replay.
They either don't want to admit they screwed up, they're bad or wasn't wasn't aware of something else.
People pop in with "OMFG HAX" All the time and *NEVER* Have a reply, *ALWAYS* An Excuse. It's like an old man telling a fishing story "The fish was this big! *Hand gesture*"

[FR]

are you crazy men?

[R[e]venge®-uk*]

Seriously?? "Hackusations??" AGT learn to be better than that!!

Alvaro has 4 x 2 Guns ....... 8 in total, with Burst Fire on, Full Health, Fully spec'ed he can reload in 1.2 Seconds (Burst) ..... Now assuming they did get 17 Citadel the Maths is as follows:
2,500 x 17 = 42,500
67,100 - 42,500 = 24,600
Burst of 3 x 8 = 24 Shells in 2.4 Seconds (assuming he is loaded)
24 - 17 = 7 which if not citadels will be around 14,000 - 7,000 Damage
So .... he either got More Citadels .... or someone else shot or ... maybe he used those torps as well at that range or he waited upto* another 4.95s to get another 8 shots off?????
*AR can get that down to around 3 ish!!

Oh and the ship your in ....
"At first glance, Nakhimov's high ship HP and similar hull to Sovetsky Soyuz may seems like an advantage in terms of armor. However, the exact opposite is the case; by tier X carrier standards, Nakhimov is a very poorly protected vessel. Her citadel is utterly enormous and is only protected by 125mm of armor, allowing even some destroyer-caliber guns to farm easy citadels off of her exposed broadside."

So in total you got out played by an Alvaro and you scream hacks??
Learn the game PLEASE!!

[Nepgear]

Originally posted by Xunzul:

I was in that match with Zuru, the one who sunk him was happy in chat to having done 27 cittadels cosecutively in the same ship; was absurd.

How's it absurd that someone takes advantage of a broadside offered up to them?