Dockyard Missions: Some Of Them Are Beyond What Players Can Do...

[AGT_ZURU]

OK, so I'm going to start off by admitting, I'm only 'Moderate' at the Game, and I can't pull off a Citadel Frenzy at the drop of a hat. There are things I just can't do, and frankly, I'm never going to be able to do those things.

So, my main Class of Ship has some Limitations, and these mean that getting some things done is actually impossible for the class. Carriers don't rack up 300+ Ribbons in a single Match in PvP, it just doesn't happen.

Moving onto the Kracken... Why is this even a thing? Why are Players actually expected to pull this off? Since I'm always in Up-Tier Matches, either with Tier VIII against Tier X, or as I've found with my USSR CV Tier X against Super Ships, I don't see myself getting a Kracken... EVER.

So, OK, I could try a different Class... Not much of an Option either, as we're dealing with PvP, not PvE. So, 300+ Ribbons, not happening, and a Kracken... Never going to happen.



OK, so all that a side for a moment, let's go further back to just Phase 3, get 2,200 Base XP in a Single Battle... Excuse me?

In all of the Matches I've played, even looking at my BEST Matches I've ever played, I've NEVER got anywhere near that much Base XP. Frankly, I'm not convinced that this can even be done. Obviously, there are just some people who this Game is a Full Time Job, so it's all they do. Sure, if you've been playing the Game since the Game came out, and you've got 100,000+ Battles on your Record, I'm sure that 2,200 Base XP is a walk in the park.

However, let's step back a moment, most people are not the World Of Warships equivalent of John Wick. Most Players can't just pull a Kracken out their A### every single Match, like it's a Carnival Trick. Most Players can't even hit a reliable Citadel with every hit.

It's not like Players are going to just sit there and let you take the Kills so that you've got enough to get the Objective complete.



Anyway, is there actually some way of knowing how much Damage you actually need to get in order to get 2,200 Base XP. I'd assume it's around 500,000 Damage or something, so you'd need a lot of Players in the Session, and most of those would need to be Battleships, with enough HP to milk between them.

I know that 200,000 Damage is nowhere near enough Damage to get the Base XP needed.

[Superczar]

Missions in the Dockyard like "earn a Kraken", or "earn 2000+ BXP in one game", those are more or less, "hey if you should happen to..." missions, basically there to ease the progress if you should be so lucky to do them, but ARE NOT REQUIRED to do.

[Hiei]

Well you don't have to complete *every* Mission, there are many different routes.
A lot of them stack over time, it's probably 300 ribbons *in* a cv and not in one game.
Citadels, depending on how it reads, you take a light cruiser into Co-op and start pounding at the broadside of a ship with tiny guns. This way you don't one shot it.

Also a lot of the missions that are there are for luck. I've gotten a few krakens, in Georgia, Fletcher and another ship here and there so it's mostly luck with quite a bit of skill as well.

Also please know that damage isn't the only way to get exp, actually I believe captured flags are one of the highest EXP givers.
The other thing is damage from exp, I believe I've been told, it's not just damage, but like Nuking DDs is worth more than like hitting a little bit of everyone.
A lot of times the easiest way to do missions is play Coop.
Get torpedo damage= play a DD in coop and zoom into battle, drop your torps and quickly finish the game, rinse and repeat.
I mentioned Citadels
Kills are basically the same
If you get one that is like "Get 500 ribbons in a bb" Play a secondary ship. Go into bot game and never fire your main guns, you'll farm crazy ribbons.
I think you're a bit too focused on doing all of it completely through and through. Though maybe it's harder this time around

[Superczar]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by Superczar:

Missions in the Dockyard like "earn a Kraken", or "earn 2000+ BXP in one game", those are more or less, "hey if you should happen to..." missions, basically there to ease the progress if you should be so lucky to do them, but ARE NOT REQUIRED to do.

To Unlock the Next Phase, those Missions have to be Completed. Going by what it's saying, there is no indication that there is a 'Complete X/Y Missions to Unlock Next Phase' at all.

Nah, I believe it's 6 missions per phase, generally there is a couple super easy ones that just give out credits, then a couple ones that give out DY tokens, then you usually have to do 2 out of the 4 ship class ones, if you did the first couple plus the DY token ones. Then they give you that one pretty difficult to pull off one as a bonus if you get lucky, getting it can mean having to not focus on a ship class then.

[Nepgear]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

So, my main Class of Ship has some Limitations, and these mean that getting some things done is actually impossible for the class. Carriers don't rack up 300+ Ribbons in a single Match in PvP, it just doesn't happen.

That does seem infeasible, but maybe you could do it with German CV secondaries. The dockyards are generally setup to require playing at least 2 classes though.

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Moving onto the Kracken... Why is this even a thing? Why are Players actually expected to pull this off?

They include a hard mission every week as a shortcut/reward for good players. You don't have to pull it off. You can either do 2 do X with Y class missions, or 1 of those missions and the hard mission.

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

So, OK, I could try a different Class... Not much of an Option either, as we're dealing with PvP, not PvE. So, 300+ Ribbons, not happening, and a Kracken... Never going to happen.

You could do the ribbons pretty easily with a good gunboat DD like Kitakaze, but again, you don't have to do the hard mission each week.

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

OK, so all that a side for a moment, let's go further back to just Phase 3, get 2,200 Base XP in a Single Battle... Excuse me?

In all of the Matches I've played, even looking at my BEST Matches I've ever played, I've NEVER got anywhere near that much Base XP. Frankly, I'm not convinced that this can even be done.

Again, you don't have to do the hard mission each week. I get 2200 fairly regularly when playing ranked or T8+, it's only really difficult at lower tiers.

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

However, let's step back a moment, most people are not the World Of Warships equivalent of John Wick. Most Players can't just pull a Kracken out their A### every single Match, like it's a Carnival Trick. Most Players can't even hit a reliable Citadel with every hit.

Just do 2 do X with Y class missions and ignore the hard mission if it's beyond your skill level. I'm happy we have the choice so I can get mine done faster and you can get yours done too.

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Anyway, is there actually some way of knowing how much Damage you actually need to get in order to get 2,200 Base XP. I'd assume it's around 500,000 Damage or something, so you'd need a lot of Players in the Session, and most of those would need to be Battleships, with enough HP to milk between them.

I know that 200,000 Damage is nowhere near enough Damage to get the Base XP needed.

The damage number doesn't matter, it's the % damage done to the ship and its tier, caps, damage to planes etc. I had a match today in Sejong that was just over 2200 bxp with only 95k damage 1 kill, just always shooting the lightest targets available. Full Akizuki, most of a Z-23, bunch off an Alaska, Napoli, and Atlantico, little bit of chip on others, some cap defence and half a capture point, just to give you an idea of about how much is needed for 2200.

Seems you understand from Super's explanation though.

[Hiei]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by The Imperial Best HIEI:

Well you don't have to complete *every* Mission, there are many different routes.
A lot of them stack over time, it's probably 300 ribbons *in* a cv and not in one game.
Citadels, depending on how it reads, you take a light cruiser into Co-op and start pounding at the broadside of a ship with tiny guns. This way you don't one shot it.

Also a lot of the missions that are there are for luck. I've gotten a few krakens, in Georgia, Fletcher and another ship here and there so it's mostly luck with quite a bit of skill as well.

Also please know that damage isn't the only way to get exp, actually I believe captured flags are one of the highest EXP givers.
The other thing is damage from exp, I believe I've been told, it's not just damage, but like Nuking DDs is worth more than like hitting a little bit of everyone.
A lot of times the easiest way to do missions is play Coop.
Get torpedo damage= play a DD in coop and zoom into battle, drop your torps and quickly finish the game, rinse and repeat.
I mentioned Citadels
Kills are basically the same
If you get one that is like "Get 500 ribbons in a bb" Play a secondary ship. Go into bot game and never fire your main guns, you'll farm crazy ribbons.
I think you're a bit too focused on doing all of it completely through and through. Though maybe it's harder this time around

It's 325 Ribbons, in PvP Random or Ranked, in a Single Match, ANY Class.

Not so hard, like I said secondary ship, I wouldn't say super easy, but very doable, heck even a very quick firing light cruiser or DD could get that

[Hiei]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by The Imperial Best HIEI:

Not so hard, like I said secondary ship, I wouldn't say super easy, but very doable, heck even a very quick firing light cruiser or DD could get that

What ship would you recommend?

If it was PvE, I've have that in the Bag, no problem, just with the Secondary Battery from my Kearsarge. PvP however, that's not a viable option.

If it has to be in pvp I'd suggest a very strong secondary ship like something higher tier German.
Personally I'll use Georgia, Massachusetts might work too.
If you have a good light cruiser they are good choices. for ribbons, you just need to mass farm them, even if you're just bouncing or shattering, hits matter

[Banzai]

Jeez. Its almost best to stop reading at the part where the OP claims he is "always bottom tier". Why make things up just to support some argument?

Anyway, very briefly to reiterate some of the above - many of the missions have optional objectives that are pretty tricky but theres nothing to stop you doing the grindier easy part. A 2k xp game is a good match for anyone but not even close to impossible (check results screens of your games and you will see someone getting around this or more in a lot of them) and the fact you seem to think you would need half a million damage to get this is wildly inaccurate. 3k base XP games are very rare but happen sometimes - 2k games really arent so uncommon.

Just to give you a ballpark figure (it really depends a lot on what you shoot and if you do a lot of other things as well like capping/tanking/spotting/whatever) had one of my best ever games in C.Colombo a few days again and got just short of 2.8k base xp so well over what is needed for your "Mission Impossible" . This was just over 200k damage with 2 caps and 42 plane kills (oh and it was T10/11 so I was actually bottom tier).

Ive had 2k base xp games with well under 100k damage however, so as mentioned - it matters what you hit. Obviously if you are getting sunk 5mins into the match then this is going to be hard to do.

[Uncle64]

If you play in one clan you often have to do 300 ribbons and stuff in naval battles. And that is not hard at all in one CV
And yea go for German BB:s if you like harder ships try out the Dutch line

[Banzai]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by Banzai:

Jeez. Its almost best to stop reading at the part where the OP claims he is "always bottom tier". Why make things up just to support some argument?

I guess I'm just going to have to make a Recording to show you. Though how I'd get that to you, I've no idea. I know how things are for me personally, and evidently, that isn't the case for you.

I rarely get an Equal-Tier, and if I'm running Tier VIII, I'm never in a Down-Tier against Players with Tier VI Ships (OK, it's happened twice from 150~ Games as a Russian CV).

Honestly dont bother. Your claims hold very little water.

Either we believe that for some unknown reason MM is victimising you despite what you claim to be happening being contrary to how the game works, or we believe that you are at best stretching the truth somewhat. Considering some of the nonsense you have posted previously I know which option I will go with.

Still, i recommend a ticket to support and a post on the official forums to investigate your claims and if you want to give them a good laugh then you should mention your bottom tier CVs being able to do nothing thing.

[Banzai]

Originally posted by The Imperial Best HIEI:

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

It's 325 Ribbons, in PvP Random or Ranked, in a Single Match, ANY Class.

Not so hard, like I said secondary ship, I wouldn't say super easy, but very doable, heck even a very quick firing light cruiser or DD could get that

Yeah absolutely. Anything fast firing or with decent secs will complete that one quickly enough. Light cruisers, DDs that like to spam from smoke, secondary focussed BB/BCs etc. Would be a chore in a CV but even then in one of the CVs with a high volume of rockets per strike it would be doable I guess.

[widukind]

Agt you sound like a very frustrated player to me. We all have these moments I guess. Pls do not forget that this is a PVP game and PVP is brutal. It is bound to give you moments of elation and probably many more moments of frustration. This is the nature of PVP. It has nothing to do with any game. WOW in general has a good way of supplying an arena where players can demonstrate their skills. There is only one way of getting better. Find out what class of ship suits you best and train, train, train.

[R[e]venge®-uk*]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by Uncle64:

If you play in one clan you often have to do 300 ribbons and stuff in naval battles. And that is not hard at all in one CV
And yea go for German BB:s if you like harder ships try out the Dutch line

When the Ribbons Mission comes up for Clan, I go into PvE, as I know I can get the Ribbons a lot easier there.

What do you do when it is Base XP??

To me going into PVE to do anything other than test a ship out which is new (Work out which modules it needs - Acceleration or Rudder, Range or Relaod) is a complete waste of time as the rewards are pitiful! Much rather do a Random or Ranked if I am feeling the mood! That said PVE can be very relaxing in a single fire torp DD like the UK line .... kill stealing up close haha .... but yeah still 0 rewards!

The second thing with PVE in this game is well ... you learn nothing new about yourself... it is simply press W and pew pew .... in a Random you have to learn to read the mini map and attempt to respond to the enemy as well as baby sit some of your guys! yes it does not always work .... but it is the only way you learn to get better and survive longer!! The KEY to this game is, the longer you live, while in range of your weapons, the more damage you can do!!

Finally ... 2200 .... Take a DD Gunboat, Kill the enemy DD (torping it 100% literally guarantees this), get a Cap or 2, few defended ribbons then hit 4-7 other targets for something and win! Want around 100k+ with a 100% or as close to DD kill with a few caps!

(Had a YY Game 2 days ago, 196k Damage, Kraken, confed only give me 2589 Base XP because all I did was torp BB's!! only 34 Shell hits - Will stick it in my Screens - shows how important killing the "lighter" things is as the % health is easier to farm XP on)

Good Luck!

[R[e]venge®-uk*]

I suppose if your clan does not require it! we have Active Naval Battles so we can crank out the super containers from NB Oil for the clan! So I do find it worth the grind as it gives everyone rewards!

[R[e]venge®-uk*]

Then get recruiting!! it pays to keep on top, kick out inactive players (who are not gods), get a Discord or Team speak going and really build a community! What we did and it runs great!! Means more Oil more Base and most of all more rewards and Clan Battles as well as training with other clans to improve and get better!

[Uncle64]

Dont think that is what Revenge talks about
I have in my clan those that dont play or refuse to do even Naval Battles but they play regulary. What I understand so in majority of clans you get kicked if you have not played for 30-60 days.
Why is your Discord blocked?