WV44

[arjensmit79]

Anyone got it to do something good ?
Just played my first game with it and it seems to be the worst ship i have ever seen in WoWs.

Its so slow it has difficulties coming even in main gun range, let alone secondary range. They might as well give us coastal cannons to play.

[Jackson]

Yes, it's very good! Borderline overpowered. Very accurate guns. Speed totally unnecessary if you're capable of planning ahead :) It's the strongest T7 BB in the game currently aside from possibly Rodney, but with Rodney only having 102 recorded battles on NA we can't really count it.

She does only have 20,000 battles tho, so likely her stats will fall. We'll see. No question it'll remain one of the strongest though, even if it relinquishes top spot.

[CRCGamer]

Considering I've dev struck a T9 cruiser with it? Its plenty usable, just slow. Its effectively a Colorado with extra sauce. So much like how you need to plan ahead a bit on where you sail your Colorado to have an impact on the game you do the same for the WV '44.

And I'll just say its a proper monster when defending against people pushing into it. You prefer setting up shop someplace where they need to come to you. And yes, you'll get sunk now and then playing that way. But if you've done it right you'll have given the enemy team a major speed bump that your team should have capitalized on.

And given it is a T7 premium, it is capable of a decent amount of credit printing. Especially if you got to rain on people with the 9km+ secondaries a bit and set some fires for extra damage.

[Stainstein]

Think of it as a combat mission specific ship, get those 3000 ribbons faster with it's secondaries if you don't have german BB line :D

[Banzai]

Best secondarys at its tier. The main guns are kind of mediocre at long range but when they hit they hit hard. The biggest issue with it is its speed so you have to be very careful with positioning and using cover on approach and also knowing when to commit to a push.

I honestly had similar feelings as the OP about the ship to start with when it was in test. We dont get any tips on how to play or build the ship so I had just set it up as a generic mid-long range tank and it was pretty bad. After a fair few poor games in it I looked at the secondarys and decided they were worth giving a try and set it up with them as the focus and suddenly it was a completely different ship. I was topping my teams, secs were wrecking anything foolish enough to get too close and while I was sometimes dying from committing to a push I was still consistently getting very large damage numbers.

As mentioned above, playing defensively in it also works as long as you have managed to get to a position pretty close to the front lines (ideally with islands to block torps).

[ReDiR]

Originally posted by Jackson:

Yes, it's very good! Borderline overpowered. Very accurate guns. Speed totally unnecessary if you're capable of planning ahead :) It's the strongest T7 BB in the game currently aside from possibly Rodney, but with Rodney only having 102 recorded battles on NA we can't really count it.

She does only have 20,000 battles tho, so likely her stats will fall. We'll see. No question it'll remain one of the strongest though, even if it relinquishes top spot.

Dont get too excited dude. WW44 is solid, especially in ranked, but guns are far from accurate. It's not the best T7 BB, which is clearly Ashitaka

[Hiei]

Originally posted by ReDiR:

Originally posted by Jackson:

Yes, it's very good! Borderline overpowered. Very accurate guns. Speed totally unnecessary if you're capable of planning ahead :) It's the strongest T7 BB in the game currently aside from possibly Rodney, but with Rodney only having 102 recorded battles on NA we can't really count it.

She does only have 20,000 battles tho, so likely her stats will fall. We'll see. No question it'll remain one of the strongest though, even if it relinquishes top spot.

Dont get too excited dude. WW44 is solid, especially in ranked, but guns are far from accurate. It's not the best T7 BB, which is clearly Ashitaka

Sorry, you'd be hard pressed to be more wrong.
Ashitaka is 5th from bottom in win rate
WV '44 is currently sitting second from the top at 20k battle (Technically Rodney is at the top but doesn't count with only 102 battles and being a test ship)

I'm sure Ashitaka can do well but she's no where near the running of best BB

[Banzai]

Each to their own tbh, but the stats dont lie. Personally I rate Scharn (all versions), Sinop and Strasbourg at T7. Theres plenty of strong BBs at that tier so it does come down to what sort of thing you want.

[Nepgear]

It's a worse Colorado unless someone's dumb enough to let you secondary them with a ship that can't handle it. Don't know what you expect of it.

Originally posted by CRCGamer:

And I'll just say its a proper monster when defending against people pushing into it. You prefer setting up shop someplace where they need to come to you.

But why not just use something with better guns like Colorado? If someone's pushing you they can choose to fight at 10 km and your secondaries are useless.

Originally posted by Banzai:

Best secondarys at its tier.

Debatable, considering the germans actually have pen and have enough speed to threaten with them. I haven't lost a fight to one with Heinrich in ranked yet, though the best one I've faced was only very good.

[Banzai]

Originally posted by Nepgear:

Debatable, considering the germans actually have pen and have enough speed to threaten with them. I haven't lost a fight to one with Heinrich in ranked yet, though the best one I've faced was only very good.

Just speaking from my (extensive) experience of playing it in test. It gets improved accuracy in line iwth the other higher tier secondary USN BBs and its sec DPM is top of the pile. Pen is an issue on heavier targets but that doesnt stop the secondarys being dangerous, plus frankly the main guns are there for troublesome battlecruisers.

[Nepgear]

Originally posted by Hiei:

Originally posted by ReDiR:

Dont get too excited dude. WW44 is solid, especially in ranked, but guns are far from accurate. It's not the best T7 BB, which is clearly Ashitaka

Sorry, you'd be hard pressed to be more wrong.
Ashitaka is 5th from bottom in win rate
WV '44 is currently sitting second from the top at 20k battle (Technically Rodney is at the top but doesn't count with only 102 battles and being a test ship)

I'm sure Ashitaka can do well but she's no where near the running of best BB

It's near the top if you filter by top 50% or better players, i.e. people that know what they're doing with the ships. WV still doesn't have enough battles to really care about its numbers either.

[ReDiR]

Originally posted by Hiei:

Originally posted by ReDiR:

Dont get too excited dude. WW44 is solid, especially in ranked, but guns are far from accurate. It's not the best T7 BB, which is clearly Ashitaka

Sorry, you'd be hard pressed to be more wrong.
Ashitaka is 5th from bottom in win rate
WV '44 is currently sitting second from the top at 20k battle (Technically Rodney is at the top but doesn't count with only 102 battles and being a test ship)

I'm sure Ashitaka can do well but she's no where near the running of best BB

Ashitaka is 90% of Amagi on T7. And Amagi is one of the best on its tier. There is not even a competition thats its the best one.

[Nepgear]

Originally posted by Banzai:

Originally posted by Nepgear:

Debatable, considering the germans actually have pen and have enough speed to threaten with them. I haven't lost a fight to one with Heinrich in ranked yet, though the best one I've faced was only very good.

Just speaking from my (extensive) experience of playing it in test. It gets improved accuracy in line iwth the other higher tier secondary USN BBs and its sec DPM is top of the pile. Pen is an issue on heavier targets but that doesnt stop the secondarys being dangerous, plus frankly the main guns are there for troublesome battlecruisers.

Germans have improved accuracy too though, and Lutjens to help with DPM. The DDs you pen can just not be spotted in your secondary range.

[Hiei]

Originally posted by ReDiR:

Originally posted by Hiei:

Sorry, you'd be hard pressed to be more wrong.
Ashitaka is 5th from bottom in win rate
WV '44 is currently sitting second from the top at 20k battle (Technically Rodney is at the top but doesn't count with only 102 battles and being a test ship)

I'm sure Ashitaka can do well but she's no where near the running of best BB

Ashitaka is 90% of Amagi on T7. And Amagi is one of the best on its tier. There is not even a competition thats its the best one.

Amagi is meh on the leaderboards too.
https://na.wows-numbers.com/ship/4281284304,Amagi/

[CRCGamer]

Originally posted by Nepgear:

It's a worse Colorado unless someone's dumb enough to let you secondary them with a ship that can't handle it. Don't know what you expect of it.
But why not just use something with better guns like Colorado? If someone's pushing you they can choose to fight at 10 km and your secondaries are useless.

It also has some armor differences between the Colorado and the WV '44. And frankly the extra kilometer and change of range on the Colorado guns rarely means much because with how USN shells parachute the effective range you can reach somebody with the spotter plane is almost the same.

But while it does have a more tender snout and rear for anyone who claps it there it has a significantly better time playing the angles game considering the torpedo protection is 35mm instead of 26mm. The shell catcher back deck is upgraded to 31mm from 26mm. And the plating under the guns but over the citadel is basically doubled from 89mm to 165mm.

All of which means more chances of full pens but significantly less citadel hits. And quite frankly the torpedo protection being 35mm is a beautiful thing to watch Musashi shells skip off of.

[arjensmit79]

Thanks.

I have copied the captain build from here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XfsIIbyORQAxgOE-ao_nVSP8_fpa1igg0t48pXZFIu0/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ch4l12d24rjn

So i'm aware to play it for secondaries. Its just that in my first game (random) i was on a very lowly populated flank together with a cruiser and opposed only by a DD and BB. We got the DD down very fast, but the BB simply kited us. It took ages to get even into main gun range and i never got into secondary range.

But since i see you all being positive about it, ill give it some more chance. In ranked i guess.

Any discussion about reasons why not to use the build from linked page could also be interesting.