A lot of money for World of Warship

[Terrible_crow]

World of Warships only serves if you pay! Do not bother and attribute subjective values to the special uniqueness of this game - it's just to earn money from users. It is suitable for the CIS, but not for Europe.

[Ace42]

WeeGee are notorious for very cynical monetisation, but I'd argue that WoWS is the least oppressive out of their three main titles.

F2P players can perform absolutely fine if they are patient with the initial grind and if they execute the fundamentals of the game.

[juujbee]

and they don't play t11

[Dee-Jay]

Originally posted by Terrible_crow:

World of Warships only serves if you pay! Do not bother and attribute subjective values to the special uniqueness of this game - it's just to earn money from users. It is suitable for the CIS, but not for Europe.

Ace is correct - WG can get a bit "crafty" with how they set up the deals in the game.

But I never understand the mindset of people who expect to be able to play the game for nothing, sorry but it's just weird. WG are a business like any other, they have overheads to maintain (like the staff they employ!!!) and also need to bring in a profit. Fact is, you can play the game fully (and competitively) but just have to invest more time than premium/spending players. There are lots of really good ships in the tech tree, and many of the better ships are obtained via the earned resources such as coal, steel etc, and premium ships drop for no cash investment at frequent intervals - we've just got D Pozharsky for instance.

[basement guy]

For what it's worth, WoWS Blitz is a lighter version of the game, of course the grind is just as bad as everywhere else but I find it more suited for casual gaming.
Also for those who don't like submarines.

[Jackson]

Originally posted by Terrible_crow:

World of Warships only serves if you pay! Do not bother and attribute subjective values to the special uniqueness of this game - it's just to earn money from users. It is suitable for the CIS, but not for Europe.

You do realize ALL business are in business to make money. There's literally no other point, right? In this you are correct. WoWS is here to make money. To think otherwise is ridiculous, but to try to say it's bad because of that is to say every business the world over is bad.

[Banzai]

Agree with the above about literally any business obviously needing to make money in order to survive, but regardless of that plenty of people (in fact the majority of the player base) do play completely for free and still do absolutely fine.

Really dont understand why the OP thinks that the game's business model is "fine for CIS but not Europe". Oh well.

[Deathwing]

Originally posted by Terrible_crow:

World of Warships only serves if you pay! Do not bother and attribute subjective values to the special uniqueness of this game - it's just to earn money from users. It is suitable for the CIS, but not for Europe.

I have not spent a dime on this game and have plenty of ships and do just fine.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

I guess people have been spoiled by the extremely friendly monetization models out there in games like Warframe and Guild Wars 2, and grow to expect that everywhere else. There also seems to be a certain very widespread misconception out there that the terms "free-to-play game" and "free game" somehow have the same meaning. Maybe it has to do with some of the ongoing world turmoil - as costs of living continue to climb, the amount of budget possible for luxuries like entertainment grows thin and leads people to demand more "bang for their buck".

[奶小的姑娘]

As a newcomer who bought the AL Cheshire bundle when I started, I do feel that the in-game items are quite expensive compared to other games. Additionally, the game feels grindy even with premium time. It feels almost unplayable without it unless you have everything and don't care about progression at all.

In terms of monetization, I know that the majority of the player base is pissed at how WG has stepped up on the monetization. The optimal way to approach this game is to buy only premium time. However, there are times when there's a ship you really want in the armory that can only be obtained via gambling or by paying an exorbitant amount. Sometimes, it's hard to resist when you have spare cash in your pocket

[juujbee]

I also think that in the last few years wargaming has made the grinding of a ship much harder than it used to be by inflating the costs of research and purchase of tech tree ships

[Ace42]

Originally posted by juujbee:

I also think that in the last few years wargaming has made the grinding of a ship much harder than it used to be by inflating the costs of research and purchase of tech tree ships

I find the opposite. I saw an Izumo with only 29 random battles ever played, 30% winrate.

Being able to quickly spam the same ship again and again accelerates the grind for any given line, instead of having to spread battles around in the lower tiers while waiting for your ship to refresh.

Along with the economic rework, you can always apply the right economic bonus for the right situation - ditto with the game throwing relatively inexpensive high tier premiums at you via dockyard.

[Jackson]

Originally posted by juujbee:

I also think that in the last few years wargaming has made the grinding of a ship much harder than it used to be by inflating the costs of research and purchase of tech tree ships

No, they haven't changed.

Originally posted by Ace42:

Originally posted by juujbee:

I also think that in the last few years wargaming has made the grinding of a ship much harder than it used to be by inflating the costs of research and purchase of tech tree ships

I find the opposite. I saw an Izumo with only 29 random battles ever played, 30% winrate.

It has not changed. That was probably a mostly coop player.

Edit: Your point about the rework stands though. While the xp hasn't changed, the xp you can get with boosters is better, as is free xp.

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by 奶小的姑娘:

As a newcomer who bought the AL Cheshire bundle when I started, I do feel that the in-game items are quite expensive compared to other games. Additionally, the game feels grindy even with premium time. It feels almost unplayable without it unless you have everything and don't care about progression at all.

In terms of monetization, I know that the majority of the player base is pissed at how WG has stepped up on the monetization. The optimal way to approach this game is to buy only premium time. However, there are times when there's a ship you really want in the armory that can only be obtained via gambling or by paying an exorbitant amount. Sometimes, it's hard to resist when you have spare cash in your pocket

Thats because you just started try to get premium time for half off less than four or five dollars a month to support game . It can be a tough game to learn less than 800 hours ,I even quit twice and came back love this game. I will say this ships can have a high price tag ,you don't have to buy. There are a lot of great ships In game that you grind to get them, can earn coal ships, steel ships, research ships some of the best ships are in there....

[christof]

They aren't nice. But I have seen so much worse in a lot of online, free2play games. Having the same kind of auctions for example, just daily and not only was any bid you made lost even if you lost. It really was ANY bid you made. You wanted to go higher for a better chance to get the item? You had to place a fully new bid. Of ingame resources that you usually were short of anyway if you planned on any kind of advancement. Unless of course if you bought them for money.

I don't really like how a lot of the events are monetised in WoWs. But I can easily live with it when I think about my past experiences. And I have noticed that I can easily play the game with only small amounts of money invested every few months simply by refraining from desperately trying to grab everything. And that I'm still getting a lot of good stuff and joy from the game even so.

[sneakybass]

Its our own doing we spend to much Its our own fault where were at....