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Giving small ingame rewards to volunteers: What Flamu is deliberatly not saying here is that that's standard nearly everywhere. And not the same as actually paying people. The amount of rewards you get is worth so little money, especially compared to the amount of work you put in, that the argument of people being bought that way is laughable at best. I can understand how people get the impression. But once you know the actual details, you realise how stupid the theory actually is.
And Flamu knows that perfectly well. But being honest about it won't get him views and thus won't get him money.
Deleting leaked company interna: Again, that is absolute standard. And there ARE rules against posting such stuff, very strict ones at that that may go up to actual legal action against the person responsible. And potentially against the platform it's published on, if they don't take action. So yeah... Maybe not the best example to proof "evil meddling by mods"?
Flamu PERFECTLY knows that. But being honest about it won't get him views and thus won't get him money.
Don't know the actual reasons for the shadowban he's mentioning. Though if there was so much it was considered spam, the messages would have been removed. If it was set to automatically be caught as spam nothing new would appear. So saying he never saw it is no proof whatsoever.
Furthermore we're coming back to industry standards yet again: Anyone not personally involved will never get to see details about any such decisions. The best they can hope for is for a general statement that does not involve any details explaining the situation. Which is what Flamu is presenting here. That is a standard that's true everywhere. Not a sign of "evil meddling by WG".
And yes, Flamu definitely should know that. But again, being honest about it won't get him views and thus won't get him money.
(Mind you, Flamu may have received bans all on his own, he's not a very nice person in such settings and often in violation of rules of behaviour.)
But let's get to the original issue: Something was apparently caught by a Reddit filter (because it openly says that it got caught by an automated system, not a human flagging it). And even though the mods then flagged it for actually being okay, it did not reappear until quite a bit later. So is it WG trying to put pressure on Reddit to keep stuff censored? Unlikely that they even could for things like simple criticism. Is Reddit trying to play nice with Wargaming for some reason? Not entirely impossible, but to what end?
Quite honestly, this very much simply looks like one of this genius, "the future is here" automated bot systems simply being not quite as genius and futuristic as it seemed.
I mean look at the Steam forums here. There is some kind of system running here as well, mostly checking postings with links in them. But I've had the strangest moments of one of my postings being held invisible by the system (you can still read them by clicking on quote message and then reading the quote, by the way) even though it was just three sentences agreeing with someone on a posting, no foul language, nothing. Until it finally appeared up to several hours later.
These systems are nowhere near fool-proof. And sometimes seem to take some time unflagging postings even after a human administrator told them to. And the most likely explanation for what sparked that video is just that.
We all ♥♥♥♥♥ and complain about stuff in the game - I'm no fanboy, I've spent time in other threads here complaining about the way WG structure some of their "offers" and yes, I think some of it's not the right way to go about things. Plus there's an entire thread set aside for raging about stuff, but it's rage, it blows over and then that's that.
For the "censorship" stuff, I find that in most cases if grievances or complaints about things are made, people (including forum moderators) will listen and respond. What people don't like is abusive, insulting behaviour or spreading falsehoods. If some characters were going on the forum constantly doing that, I don't blame mods for acting because that's their role!
As for "sunk cost fallacy", do you think people really still play (and keep spending on) the game simply because they've spent on it in the past? Or do you think they enjoy playing it?
The issue we are going to have is if you want to take an aggressive stance and start throwing around namecalling as you are above. Try and be nice if you wish to post here and try and elevate yourself above the level of the playground.
For the record, there has been a grand total of one thread thats been locked up by us recently and that was due to it turning into an abusive puerile argument after being answered. I mean, look at the top 5 threads on the front page - 4 are critical of the game or are complaining about something. Hardly "censorship heavy". As mentioned elsewhere, maybe dont make things up to suit your own narrative.
可疑的。用户提到论坛审查并被审查。我再也看不到帖子了
So your argument kind of fails? Pretty hard at that.
Also note how he never even tried to bring up any counter to what I wrote. Instead of using actual facts and logic to argue against what I said, he just pulled the cheap and dishonest cop-out of claiming that I was some die-hard fanboy or shill anyway. So everything I write will be just propaganda and he does not even have to try to disproof it.
Which he can't, of course. That's the true reason why he wasn't even trying.
His whole contribution was just cheap and dishonest propaganda with no value to an actual discussion. As a matter of fact, he deliberately rejected any actual discussion by utterly ignoring/rejecting the points I brought up without as much as a single comment on the details.
In other words: He basically is everything he is accusing others to be.
Flamu is single-handedly responsible for a significant portion of the toxicity in this game's community - he literally got banned from the Community Contributor program for repeatedly stat-shaming fellow players live on stream. I've had to do a little introspection of my own to rid myself of some of the misconceptions that I didn't even remember came from him (for example, his elitist claims that all the best players are only on the EU server). The amount of harm his lies, conspiracy videos, and encouragement of toxic behavior amongst his undeservedly large fanbase have done to WoWS and its community nearly rivals the amount that Wargaming itself has done. He deserves to be called out for the clickbaiter and liar that he is until the day he stops posting his nonsense.
Dude chill, the big bad Finnish man can't hurt you anymore, it's gonna be ok.
Ive actually agreed with a few of his videos and a few more have been quite useful when hes identified bugs etc, but a whole lot of his content could fairly be described as toxic.
Ironically the one that was linked in the OP was at least pretty fair since he looked at both sides of the allegations and made it clear he didnt know the truth of the matter, and even stated that it could have been reddits spam filter kicking in (as its known to do at times) and was nothing to do with the mods over there. Of course people who just wanted to jump on the rage bandwagon probably didnt get further than the title so wouldnt be aware of this.