There has to be aiming cheats in this game.

[smayle88]

WoWS claims they screen reported players but I seriously doubt it. Tell me how two equal ships firing broadside to each other, one ships shots scatter like bird shot and miss but the other ship hits citadel EVERY FREAKING VOLLEY?!?!?! This game has some SERIOUS issues that they refuse to address. I'll go play another game and give Warships NOT ANOTHER DIME!

[Hiei]

Heavily doubting there was cheating involved, but please share a replay.
Different lines have different dispersion, the citadels are placed differently sometimes as well.

For example if you were close fighting someone and it was a German BB; they have turtle back armor which makes citadel ling them close up next to impossible and the best way to citadel a German BB is by having your fire come DOWN on them instead of hitting the sides of the ship.

He'd also likely be built secondary and probably win every time.

[sneakybass]

1900 hours and still don't understand some times your shells hit better than other times. First off don't go broad side to a ship to see witch one of you will die faster you will be dis appointed at some point. I test that once In a while taking chances with my cidel.

[smayle88]

Originally posted by The Imperial Best HIEI:

Heavily doubting there was cheating involved, but please share a replay.
Different lines have different dispersion, the citadels are placed differently sometimes as well.

For example if you were close fighting someone and it was a German BB; they have turtle back armor which makes citadel ling them close up next to impossible and the best way to citadel a German BB is by having your fire come DOWN on them instead of hitting the sides of the ship.

He'd also likely be built secondary and probably win every time.

Two cruisers. I play the Roon with all the aiming consumables available and opposing other cruisers in different matches, some players ALWAYS kill me in three volleys. THERE ARE CHEATERS IN THIS GAME!!!! You can't deny that! They are either hackers or the game creators messing with you.

[smayle88]

Originally posted by sneakybass:

1900 hours and still don't understand some times your shells hit better than other times. First off don't go broad side to a ship to see witch one of you will die faster you will be dis appointed at some point. I test that once In a while taking chances with my cidel.

I even tried island hiding, which is totally weak and they still seem to fire volleys right over high mountains and crit hit me every damn time! I've reported players and nothing is ever done. This game is a money PAY TO WIN vaccuum. That's all it is. I have been stuck in silver ranked battles for months and can never get past 3rd tier. I bet if I bought a year of premium my luck would suddenly change.

[smayle88]

Originally posted by smayle88:

Originally posted by sneakybass:

1900 hours and still don't understand some times your shells hit better than other times. First off don't go broad side to a ship to see witch one of you will die faster you will be dis appointed at some point. I test that once In a while taking chances with my cidel.

I even tried island hiding, which is totally weak and they still seem to fire volleys right over high mountains and crit hit me every damn time! I've reported players and nothing is ever done. This game is a money PAY TO WIN vaccuum. That's all it is. I have been stuck in silver ranked battles for months and can never get past 3rd tier. I bet if I bought a year of premium my luck would suddenly change. And why after 1900 hrs should my shells change accuracy?

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Skill issue.

[Hiei]

Originally posted by smayle88:

Originally posted by The Imperial Best HIEI:

Heavily doubting there was cheating involved, but please share a replay.
Different lines have different dispersion, the citadels are placed differently sometimes as well.

For example if you were close fighting someone and it was a German BB; they have turtle back armor which makes citadel ling them close up next to impossible and the best way to citadel a German BB is by having your fire come DOWN on them instead of hitting the sides of the ship.

He'd also likely be built secondary and probably win every time.

Two cruisers. I play the Roon with all the aiming consumables available and opposing other cruisers in different matches, some players ALWAYS kill me in three volleys. THERE ARE CHEATERS IN THIS GAME!!!! You can't deny that! They are either hackers or the game creators messing with you.

Proof of burden is in your court, where's the replay?
I've seen some strange stuff sure but I always look it over and try to figure out where it wrong.
Ok so you're playing the Roon, what was the other ship?
Just show the replay.
Still going to say that the citadel isn't always in the same spot.

[Jackson]

Yep, skill issue. Pretty easy to kill cruisers occasionally at least with 1-2 shots, much less 3.

[Banzai]

All the RNG "dice rolls" are server side and therefore not really cheatable. Dispersion is a thing and sometimes you get unlucky although where you are actually aiming on your opponent matters. Go look at some of the dispersion diagrams (LittleWhiteMouse's ship reviews on the NA WoWs forum often include them) and you will see that just like in real life there is a fair amount of scatter in fired shells. Better players stay alive longer due to smart positioning, dodging and knowing when and how to disengage so they get more rolls of the RNG dice so will do more damage overall.

The fact that you then switch to a P2W argument shows you are really just looking for excuses for why some people are better than you. Suffice to say there are plenty of unicum f2p players and large amounts of deep red 40%ers who have spent a lot on the game. You can pay to progress more quickly but it has zero effect on your dispersion/matchmaking/etc.

Firing over cover is a thing that a lot of ships can do but they tend to suffer from longer flight times on the shells since they are taking a higher trajectory so are easier to dodge if you are paying attention. Has to be said that Roon isnt really suited to playing like that and you are better off in open water kiting and making use its ability to slow down and speed up very quickly to dodge shells.

Originally posted by smayle88:

THERE ARE CHEATERS IN THIS GAME!!!! You can't deny that! They are either hackers or the game creators messing with you.

Certainly can deny it for the things you are complaining about due to how the game works. The fact you also seem to be suggesting that the game is somehow victimising you for some unknown reason is frankly laughable.

[Spork.monkey]

Originally posted by smayle88:

WoWS claims they screen reported players but I seriously doubt it. Tell me how two equal ships firing broadside to each other, one ships shots scatter like bird shot and miss but the other ship hits citadel EVERY FREAKING VOLLEY?!?!?! This game has some SERIOUS issues that they refuse to address. I'll go play another game and give Warships NOT ANOTHER DIME!

different ships have different spreads, theres mods that reduce spread, theres rng involved as well

[Spork.monkey]

and also, a lot of bbs dont need to hit a massive salvo to kill a cruiser. a few well placed shots will do the trick just fine

[R[e]venge®-uk*]

By "Mods" I think he means the aiming systems Modifications to be clear .... Slot 3

as for OP .... your in a ROON ..... the ROON has a Turtle back at Cruiser level ... meaning most cruiser AP PENETRATES you .... yes .... 10 - 25k Volleys if they can hit the deck belt, they are not usually citadels, but Jeez anything with US/Russian AP or 305's or bigger can citadel you ... and at that tier ... you have quite a few options! so .. never go broadside!! a Brest for example has 330's and will/can one shot you broadside!

That said the simple fact your in brawling range means your playing her wrong .....
The Roon - Kite Kite Kite long range HE Spammer with Decent AP when the chance arises, you want to play her as far away as you have range! She is not meant to be up close and personal!! Hence your being punished so hard!!
Good Luck!

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by smayle88:

Originally posted by sneakybass:

1900 hours and still don't understand some times your shells hit better than other times. First off don't go broad side to a ship to see witch one of you will die faster you will be dis appointed at some point. I test that once In a while taking chances with my cidel.

I even tried island hiding, which is totally weak and they still seem to fire volleys right over high mountains and crit hit me every damn time! I've reported players and nothing is ever done. This game is a money PAY TO WIN vaccuum. That's all it is. I have been stuck in silver ranked battles for months and can never get past 3rd tier. I bet if I bought a year of premium my luck would suddenly change.

Smayle i was like you back 8000 hours ago Im not kidding you I was a real pain back then talking about this game here you have hit a bump In the road. I did not start seeing the light untill I had 1,600 hours and still not doing a great job of it .

Are you using all the best ships that helps In this game check out WOWS STATS and Numbers It helps a little to know what ships are doing great In stats . I use BBs mostly ,I don't play randoms ,I do play Ranked i enjoy that I have a 55% win rate but also can play up to 76% winrate super unicum once in a while five to six wins in a row and enjoy coop, there are a few others modes also.

Are you at least In the best of five or better when playing? What kind of ships you using? Your stuck In Silver league Are you In first to third place for the game ,for me I need to get at least two kills and do 140,000 plus damage with a BB to continue forward In ranked most times. What kind of ships you using I only know of Roon Is a crs everything can kill you stay with your bigger support ships wait till when firing Is safe or enemy not paying much att to you for Ranked this season there are ships that are not worth a darn ? This game has a super long learning curve of all my games you can do It. Hey If I can do some It you can also...Me I would rather use a Alaska or Siegfried for me , Roon places on wows 18th place not the greatest ship but Revenge above says It great what you need to be doing. I hope you sort It out hope to see you in game.

[P1rol]

the serious issue in this game is the RNG effect... as a player without any mods or cheats, you never know if you dev-strike the enemy or if nothing else happens but just a nice sound effect from firing the mainbattery. but some players surprisingly dont have issues like that.

better send the replay to WG. in this forum, you will only get some "heavy broadsides" by some mods and some "skilled" players.
but dont expect too much from the report. i think WG is not very motivated to find cheaters in their game. so you wont get an answer if a cheat was confirmed or what happend to the player.
i sometimes look for the player on wows stats. and so far, only one stopped making progress after he was reported for cheating. so i guess he was banned? (his des moines had a better reaload time then a minotaur). but most ppl dont cheat in an obvious way like this.

[Banzai]

Originally posted by P1rol:

the serious issue in this game is the RNG effect... as a player without any mods or cheats, you never know if you dev-strike the enemy or if nothing else happens but just a nice sound effect from firing the mainbattery. but some players surprisingly dont have issues like that.

better send the replay to WG. in this forum, you will only get some "heavy broadsides" by some mods and some "skilled" players.
but dont expect too much from the report. i think WG is not very motivated to find cheaters in their game. so you wont get an answer if a cheat was confirmed or what happend to the player.
i sometimes look for the player on wows stats. and so far, only one stopped making progress after he was reported for cheating. so i guess he was banned? (his des moines had a better reaload time then a minotaur). but most ppl dont cheat in an obvious way like this.

All the RNG is server side hence cant be hacked. It effects everyone equally but obviously better players aim better. Also better players last longer so get more rolls of the RNG dice. We all know you love your conspiracy theories but this is pretty basic and well documented.

Des Moines can get down to a similar reload speed to Mino with adren rush and main battery mod 3, and if they happen to be running Halsey and get a confederate medal (triggering the implacable skill) then they will be firing at an absurd rate. As has been explained countless times previously - all the ship parameters are server side so there is no way they hacked the reload to be faster than it should have been. Again pretty basic and well documented stuff which frankly trumps someones feeling that they must have witnessed hax. Regardless of whether this person stopped playing or not they certainly wouldnt have been banned for what you claim since its pretty much an impossibility (and if they had they would have changed the parameters of every DesMo on the server - seem likely to you?).

The mods and skilled players here (notice I removed your sarcastic quotes on that) will try and explain these things when people make baseless claims of this sort and its a shame when someone as obviously knowledgeable and clued up as yourself feeds into the nonsense.