Wyoming to New York?

[natknut]

I know this is progression, but from what I can tell it is a complete downgrade. Is there something I'm missing?

[Iron Blood]

new york is so much better. then wyoming. biger gun caliber longer fireing range better firing accurcy betterAA more hp better armor and torpedo belt. new york aint much of an upgrade but once fully moduled and has B hull and improved firing control its a lot better but both bbs are slow same for most of the rest that follow till about T7-T8.
good way to find out certian thign like pro cn of ships and revies is the worlds of warships wiki. http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/World_of_Warships

[Banzai]

Originally posted by Esdeath:

new york is so much better. then wyoming. biger gun caliber longer fireing range better firing accurcy betterAA more hp better armor and torpedo belt. new york aint much of an upgrade but once fully moduled and has B hull and improved firing control its a lot better but both bbs are slow same for most of the rest that follow till about T7-T8.
good way to find out certian thign like pro cn of ships and revies is the worlds of warships wiki. http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/World_of_Warships

Agree, tho the 6 is really good.

[natknut]

thanks for the info

[Ryuu]

USN BB line gets a buff next week with release of 0.7.12, don't remember which tiers specifically.
You may wait until then trying out other lines for now.

[Eva]

new york has more accurate guns, but then again that doesnt matter much since youre tier 5 so you get severely uptiered most of the time. USN BB's suck up till tier 8 where they become actually good.

oh, the only redeeming factor the new york has is that it has much improved AA guns

[Donegali]

Originally posted by GiometryE:

new york has more accurate guns, but then again that doesnt matter much since youre tier 5 so you get severely uptiered most of the time. USN BB's suck up till tier 8 where they become actually good.

oh, the only redeeming factor the new york has is that it has much improved AA guns

I mostly agree with you but the New Mexico at T6 used to be good (although possibly powercrept as I haven't played her in a long time) as is the Colorado if you can actually get into a decent position before the game ends, otherwise totally agree.

As to OP, most ships are a slight downgrade when you first buy them if the last tier was fully upgraded, they only normally overtake the last tier once fully upgraded themselves.

[Eva]

Originally posted by Donegali:

Originally posted by GiometryE:

new york has more accurate guns, but then again that doesnt matter much since youre tier 5 so you get severely uptiered most of the time. USN BB's suck up till tier 8 where they become actually good.

oh, the only redeeming factor the new york has is that it has much improved AA guns

I mostly agree with you but the New Mexico at T6 used to be good (although possibly powercrept as I haven't played her in a long time) as is the Colorado if you can actually get into a decent position before the game ends, otherwise totally agree.

As to OP, most ships are a slight downgrade when you first buy them if the last tier was fully upgraded, they only normally overtake the last tier once fully upgraded themselves.

New Mexico was decent-ish if only because you had more guns so an increased chance to hit something, as well as it being moderately faster than the average US low-mid tier BB.

Colorado is a steaming pile of junk that i cant wait to freeXP past because its a useless slow bulletsponge, and one that absolutely doesnt have a place in tier 7 where it regularly faces BB's that are much faster, maneuvrable and accurate than itself.

[Donegali]

Originally posted by GiometryE:

Colorado is a steaming pile of junk that i cant wait to freeXP past because its a useless slow bulletsponge, and one that absolutely doesnt have a place in tier 7 where it regularly faces BB's that are much faster, maneuvrable and accurate than itself.

I actually heard that before I unlocked it, so was hugely surprised when I did quite well in her and even had a bit of fun, think I have about a 60%ish WR and some 100k+ scores in her. But she was soon sold once I unlocked the North Cal.

[Jackson]

Originally posted by natknut:

I know this is progression, but from what I can tell it is a complete downgrade. Is there something I'm missing?

Technically it's an upgrade. I have to say I, too, felt the Wyoming was pretty good. It's certainly better for its tier than New York, but if you suddenly started meeting T7 ships in WY, it's armor would not hold up at all - NY would be better there. It was definitely more fun tho!

[Aegis270]

Originally posted by Donegali:

Originally posted by GiometryE:

Colorado is a steaming pile of junk that i cant wait to freeXP past because its a useless slow bulletsponge, and one that absolutely doesnt have a place in tier 7 where it regularly faces BB's that are much faster, maneuvrable and accurate than itself.

I actually heard that before I unlocked it, so was hugely surprised when I did quite well in her and even had a bit of fun, think I have about a 60%ish WR and some 100k+ scores in her. But she was soon sold once I unlocked the North Cal.

I'm on the Colorado. It's very polarising. On the one hand, the guns are good (When they can be convinced to actually hit the target), the AA is good, and it's surprisingly nimble.

On the other, it's got terrible armor everywhere that isn't the citadel, which means you take full pen damage from everything, even while directly bow on. Light cruisers and even the British and Japanese gun boat DDs can have a field day with you if you stray too close, and even equal tier BBs can cut right through your bow plating without worry.

Then there's the speed. It's a serious problem. The first is the most basic, you have serious trouble positioning yourself correctly. If your team is winning, you can honestly spend the entire game taking 15km+ pot shots at things because you cannot close the gap on anything without it dying. If your team is losing, then by the time you're even relevant your team is already at a disadvantage and much of your backup has already taken a pounding.

Combine the two, and this ship dies very quickly if you make one mistake. Put yourself too close to more than 3 enemy ships, and you're going to be at the bottom before you can break off due to their constant penetrations regardless of angling and your complete inability to open the distance on them.

[Banzai]

New Mex can cit T8s all day long, and if its top tier it can be pretty darn nasty. I played very few battles in Colorado a long time ago, so have bought it back to see how it plays.

Edit after playing it: First game in colo in probably 2 yrs. Double strike and dreadnaught. I admit i didnt play it stock. Seems ok if slow. Actually pretty mobile if you discount the speed, and the guns are good.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197994609052/images/

My in game tag is not the same as my Steam tag by the way :)

[Final Boss]

Your problem isn't the which ship is better. It's upgrading to T5 that starts forcing you to fight T7. If you have a really high level cap, premiums, aka are an experience player, it's not SO bad. But if you aren't, you just started playing/reaching these ships? Good ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ luck, lol. Literally T7 destroyers will just steadily shred through your hp, in the time it takes to try to switch to HE to not overpen, you're burning and almost dead. T7 battleships...hah....just hope they don't target you, and only bother trying AP against broadside, cause nothings going through at all otherwise.
Also, pray to god a carrier with 40+ ships (t7) doesn't target you, cause ships it's supposed to be against have literally 3-4X your AA, your BB gets melted.

[Banzai]

Originally posted by Final Boss:

Your problem isn't the which ship is better. It's upgrading to T5 that starts forcing you to fight T7.

If you have a really high level cap, premiums, aka are an experience player, it's not SO bad. But if you aren't, you just started playing/reaching these ships? Good ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ luck, lol. Literally T7 destroyers will just steadily shred through your hp, in the time it takes to try to switch to HE to not overpen, you're burning and almost dead.

T7 battleships...hah....just hope they don't target you, and only bother trying AP against broadside, cause nothings going through at all otherwise.

Also, pray to god a carrier with 40+ ships (t7) doesn't target you, cause ships it's supposed to be against have literally 3-4X your AA, your BB gets melted.

Edited you, hope u dont mind - more readable now.

If you are bottom tier, then your role isnt to carry the team, it is to help the team. That said people often ignore ppl -2 tiers and show side, so enjoy their citadel. |Team game.