How many people do you report?

[The nubinator]

You get 7 reports per day,. when I play I play an average of 15-20 games per day then take a bit of a break.

I think my total in general during that day is 0.

Overall I got maybe 20 reports :P
But I feel that people are generally far more trigger happy, good or bad?

[dakin1]

Reports don't really do anything (good or bad), but they are a way to vent off steam. I usually only report someone if they do something really stupid (like being AFK or team killing or needlessly throwing their ship away for no reason) but it might be 1-2 times a session at best.

I actually complimented a CV player yesterday (gag!) for helping our team to win a match with some timely kills and good maneuvering at the end of the battle.

[Guara Ookami]

Yeah reports dont do anything, kinda wish it did, getting matched twice with potatos is surely rage inducing.

[The nubinator]

I might get reported for h4x today. Hit my first 15/15 rocket salvo in smoke on a cruiser xD

But yeah reports work if people report you for abusive chat instead of playing poorly and you talk back a bit when they tell you they think youre bad or something =D trust me im banned all the time.

I dont know what exactly low karma does but im sure it influence some algo or something.

[The nubinator]

I think I know what the report system is doing, I kinda tested it out now with a support ticket.

It's such a weird system. Because what I did this last time was talk a lot of ♥♥♥♥ when everyone were happy and its going pretty good. And far less so when im doing badly.

And I still got banned. So now I sent a ticket about like my ban and they replied with a ton of chat records, almost taken automatically by some bot that had bad words, mainly just "f u c k" or something in contexts that are completely not insulting like>

"TheNubination 2021-03-19 20:03:09 UTC ♥♥♥♥ i should be dead tho"

"TheNubination 2021-03-19 19:47:00 UTC hes gonna rape me"

Or like this half sentence> "TheNubination 2021-03-19 19:47:07 UTC how the ♥♥♥♥ is h"


So I think what happens is that when some guy that dislikes you reports you for bad language, the system looks through all the bad stuff youve said, say that day, not just in that game, and mostly its an automated process.

And depending on some thresholds, maybe your karma, maybe previous bans, it bans you, irrespective of when or even IF those things were reported.


Even this sentence that was between me and a friend in a division in a private 2 player chat is included in the support reply TheNubination 2021-03-19 15:39:43 UTC okay lets not ♥♥♥♥ up then ;D

And this is why so many people when they whine on the main forums about their bans they get so easily shut down by these logs. But these logs are stupid and out of context.


Out of 8 of these logs provided for my full day of gaming, there's like at most 2 insults, maybe 2.5. And they are kinda soft. Like "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ petro".


I think the worst one is like "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ c-words" and maybe I do deserve a ban for that, but like, I doubt it was reported in that game.

[JohnPaulJones]

The nubinator i reporting you for stiring up players on here i am rating on u .ok As the Rat above me reported u for u no what u did to him the other day .Maybe if i spill it out u soon be running for youe hole you climb out now be a good RAT an be a happy pl;ayer

[JohnPaulJones]

PS i said me peace

[The nubinator]

what are you talking about dude lol.

[Guara Ookami]

Origineel geplaatst door The nubinator:

I think I know what the report system is doing, I kinda tested it out now with a support ticket.

It's such a weird system. Because what I did this last time was talk a lot of ♥♥♥♥ when everyone were happy and its going pretty good. And far less so when im doing badly.

And I still got banned. So now I sent a ticket about like my ban and they replied with a ton of chat records, almost taken automatically by some bot that had bad words, mainly just "f u c k" or something in contexts that are completely not insulting like>

"TheNubination 2021-03-19 20:03:09 UTC ♥♥♥♥ i should be dead tho"

"TheNubination 2021-03-19 19:47:00 UTC hes gonna rape me"

Or like this half sentence> "TheNubination 2021-03-19 19:47:07 UTC how the ♥♥♥♥ is h"


So I think what happens is that when some guy that dislikes you reports you for bad language, the system looks through all the bad stuff youve said, say that day, not just in that game, and mostly its an automated process.

And depending on some thresholds, maybe your karma, maybe previous bans, it bans you, irrespective of when or even IF those things were reported.


Even this sentence that was between me and a friend in a division in a private 2 player chat is included in the support reply TheNubination 2021-03-19 15:39:43 UTC okay lets not ♥♥♥♥ up then ;D

And this is why so many people when they whine on the main forums about their bans they get so easily shut down by these logs. But these logs are stupid and out of context.


Out of 8 of these logs provided for my full day of gaming, there's like at most 2 insults, maybe 2.5. And they are kinda soft. Like "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ petro".


I think the worst one is like "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ c-words" and maybe I do deserve a ban for that, but like, I doubt it was reported in that game.

those from the ticket are the chatbot that moderates it, i had the same happen to me last year and ticketed it, not sure if a report could have played a part on it but i dont think so.

[The nubinator]

How do I ticket a ticket?

I mean I ticketed asking why I got banned and this is what I got?

So you think people are getting banned without even getting reported? O.O

That would so messed up.

Like people can say terrible things without using cuss words, but if you use them words in totally benign even supportive way you might get banned without anyone ever even reporting you?

Maybe Im wrong, maybe reports dont work and it's just a AI watching over us lol to save money . But I think something HAS TO TRIGGER IT, and then it starts looking through your record for an excuse to ban you.


So if you really think somebody is being a super potato on purpose or something you could bet that they have sometimes said something that an automated process could consider wrong and report them for that and the bot will look through their records.

Its kinda an ♥♥♥♥ move tho >P

[Guara Ookami]

Yeah it has been a while that wows operates like that you cant call someone bad names (i think idiot is fine for some reason) but calling someone retarded, or F word for anything will give you a chatban, its a poorly made system with plenty of workarounds, like stats or just as i mentioned before you can call someone "Disabled" because it is a "common word" used in the game, WG really putted 0 effort into it as a chat moderating tool.

[The nubinator]

No but thats my point. Its not operating that way. It's that plus worse and yeah they are super lazy.

It's operating in the weirdest, most blankety way possible.

SOMEONE anyone, YOU report me, in random game X. Okay.

My theory is that even if I said nothing bad in that game at all, the bot will look through dozens of games prior to that.

Then if it finds enough "red flags", even if those are like supportive messages between friends that have no insults in them like my "2021-03-19 15:39:43 UTC okay lets not ♥♥♥♥ up then ;D"

After x number you get banned and the ban length is determined by the total y, no matter if those were reported or not, no matter if those are insults or not.


But this is why nobody who gets banned can defend themselves. Cause if you look through someones trash long enough you're gonna find something you want to find.

[Banzai]

Firstly, please dont bypass the profanity filter here.

Secondly, a lot of the in game chat moderation is automated. If someone reports you for misbehaviour in chat then it automatically scans your chatlogs for swears/racial slurs/unpleasantness and if it finds any of the many examples you cite above it will be a strike against you. Get enough of those means a chat ban for a day or two. I cant imagine it looks at division/clan chat etc unless your division/clan mates are reporting you.

For more serious offences (ie if someone submitted a ticket with screenshots of something really unpleasant being said in chat or ongoing harassment etc) then it would be human moderated and could result in much longer chat bans.

Theres a very easy solution for avoiding all of this but i'll leave you to work that out yourself.

[sneakybass]

This game Is the best at team play working together, Typing insults hardly ever wins you games ever. There will always be potatos In game both sides, Getting upset over players, tactics or the way they play will just hurt you . I know one thing I get more hot headed playing this game If I let It. I do know this asking people to move or help out In battle have won me more games thru team work and a lot more fun.....Just clicking on a dd to tell them there covered you lighten the game up ,and a team that types during battle working together wins games. I don't click on a bad player and send a report unless Its name calling , Its better to just type to them something help full, or step away and get a sandwich...........

[Guara Ookami]

Origineel geplaatst door You Die0244:

This game Is the best at team play working together, Typing insults hardly ever wins you games ever. There will always be potatos In game both sides, Getting upset over players, tactics or the way they play will just hurt you . I know one thing I get more hot headed playing this game If I let It. I do know this asking people to move or help out In battle have won me more games thru team work and a lot more fun.....Just clicking on a dd to tell them there covered you lighten the game up ,and a team that types during battle working together wins games. I don't click on a bad player and send a report , Its better to just type to them something help full, or step away and get a sandwich...........

typing something helpfull is as usefull as speaking to a wall, if the player yolos his DD or CL/CA into the cap headfirst into the game and he is at tier 8 then it is very unlikely that he is willing to listen to any sort of advice if reporting bad players could get them into a low priority queue then surely people would have an incentive to play and do the minimun expected from then, now coordinating yes does help a lot specially with people that know how to play the game

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Depends how bad of teams and/or how toxic of people I run across. With the current state of the community, though, it's not uncommon for me to run out of daily reports within 2-3 matches these days. Battleships cowering in the back of the map? Report - Plays Poorly. People crying about how CV players should die IRL or something? Report - Misbehavior in Chat. People complaining their team sucks when they died in the first five minutes without accomplishing anything? Report 'em for both. Even with the extra report I get from having over 20 Karma due to learning to keep my own mouth shut more doesn't really help. Especially if you're playing Ranked, those reports fly out like hotcakes.

I'll compliment people occasionally, too, if they've clearly had a good game, been doing something right, or supported me in a helpful way that you don't see very often (another battleship pushing right alongside me, a destroyer laying a smoke screen for a ship in need, etc.). But those never seem to go by nearly as fast.