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ErBoia_SPQR Aug 29, 2021 @ 12:08pm
Italian battleships
I still do not understand how it is possible to have created battleships that cannot hit the target even at 6 kilometers, reload the guns very slow and when you fire to the maximum you hit with one shot doing a very low damage every 32 seconds. Really pathetic
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ReDiR Aug 29, 2021 @ 12:11pm 
That's why they have good armor and speed. Lower accuracy is due to balance
ErBoia_SPQR Aug 29, 2021 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by ReDiR:
That's why they have good armor and speed. Lower accuracy is due to balance
Even a spit would set those battleships on fire, not to mention the massive damage you receive bow in close combat
Last edited by ErBoia_SPQR; Aug 29, 2021 @ 12:21pm
ErBoia_SPQR Aug 29, 2021 @ 12:57pm 
they are the most useless ships of the whole game, they have no reason to exist, anti-aircraft non-existent, you are constantly on fire, to hit a ship you need a miracle
Hiei Aug 29, 2021 @ 1:23pm 
Crazy idea, likes make a battleship with a cloaking device so it can go dark at a proper range
Also let's give it super accurate guns
Oh also best AA
Oh and great armor
Sounds a bit strong.
Currently the T 10 is sitting at 5th spot, right under armory ships and the t10 Russian BB
Performing mid level isn't bad, it's just not super strong.
This implies that it has a learning curve but the people who do play it and take time are doing well.
ErBoia_SPQR Aug 29, 2021 @ 1:30pm 
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I reset the naval branch of the battleships 4 times every time I did it again I cursed myself. They are the worst ships ever created, the Italian cruisers are the real battleships
juujbee Aug 29, 2021 @ 4:30pm 
I can not understand why you would reset ships that you do not like to play
Learn to play them better then. The Italian battleships have amazing armor for angling, ridiculous damage potential at high tiers with SAP, and have completely outclassed the Germans for the role of "best brawling battleships".
StormhawkV Aug 29, 2021 @ 6:48pm 
Italian BBs are forced to fight from close range because of their bad accuracy. That doesn't make them good brawlers, just bad ships. Their secondaries have no pen either.
Kilo Aug 29, 2021 @ 6:54pm 
Originally posted by The Imperial Best HIEI:
Crazy idea, likes make a battleship with a cloaking device so it can go dark at a proper range
Also let's give it super accurate guns
Oh also best AA
Oh and great armor
Sounds a bit strong.
Currently the T 10 is sitting at 5th spot, right under armory ships and the t10 Russian BB
Performing mid level isn't bad, it's just not super strong.
This implies that it has a learning curve but the people who do play it and take time are doing well.
I have 11.7 detect on My Roma. So if anything detects me i got something close most of the times it's DDs.
Hiei Aug 29, 2021 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by Kilo:
Originally posted by The Imperial Best HIEI:
Crazy idea, likes make a battleship with a cloaking device so it can go dark at a proper range
Also let's give it super accurate guns
Oh also best AA
Oh and great armor
Sounds a bit strong.
Currently the T 10 is sitting at 5th spot, right under armory ships and the t10 Russian BB
Performing mid level isn't bad, it's just not super strong.
This implies that it has a learning curve but the people who do play it and take time are doing well.
I have 11.7 detect on My Roma. So if anything detects me i got something close most of the times it's DDs.
Roma doesn't have the smoke gen that the tech tree ones get (I don't play BBs often but 11 seems good for a battleship.)
Yeah DDs do that sadly, which is why changing speed and direction are always important.
Banzai Aug 29, 2021 @ 11:42pm 
i see a lot of these threads about Italian BBs on various forums, and dont really get the problem.

The line in general is agile and tanky (with some of the tankiness coming from the ability to dodge a lot of fire at medium range or greater). The SAP will hurt anyone, although I would suggest not focussing one person with it since you get diminishing returns vs saturation. The AP does what you would want it to do vs the correct targets with the correct timing. Also ofc you get the smoke from T8 which allows you to escape or push depending on the situation.

The guns have quite low arcs and high shot velocity so maybe some misses are due to not being used to how they handle.

My experience of them is they are very hard to kill, so they are dealing damage for longer than many other BBs would be in their situation. They do require some WASD and situational awareness of course.

For the personal anecdote, I remember a game that stood out - late game being on around 50% HP with a couple of heals left having tanked 2.5m or so in the T8. Being that comfortable after 2.5m potential damage is not something you get in many BBs. As long as you are actively making sure noone has you broadsside they are tough to kill.
Last edited by Banzai; Aug 29, 2021 @ 11:45pm
apophis37 Aug 30, 2021 @ 12:32am 
i'm only up to t6 with them, and so far i am liking them. Their weakness is that they die very quick if u broadside or come up against +2 tiers, got ♥♥♥♥ for AA. Their strongpoints are quick maneuvering and them guns... hell first game i ever played with Andrea i had a kraken vs t8's. (had several more now)
Banzai Aug 30, 2021 @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by apophis37:
i'm only up to t6 with them, and so far i am liking them. Their weakness is that they die very quick if u broadside or come up against +2 tiers, got ♥♥♥♥ for AA. Their strongpoints are quick maneuvering and them guns... hell first game i ever played with Andrea i had a kraken vs t8's. (had several more now)
Kraken vs 8s in the 6 is nice. Well played.

Theres a strong argument for fitting one of the agility mods on the higher tier boats although would take as much concealment as possible.
apophis37 Aug 30, 2021 @ 12:43am 
might be worth mentioning i have not yet used SAP, but that goes for any other BB line to, i never use fire shells, i hate the mechanics of them and refuse to use them.
Zalzany Aug 30, 2021 @ 1:11am 
Originally posted by apophis37:
might be worth mentioning i have not yet used SAP, but that goes for any other BB line to, i never use fire shells, i hate the mechanics of them and refuse to use them.
Well that is an issue not all nations liked AP I tried that mentality with UK, and found myself using only HE like Orion is garbage with AP, but HE, 40% fire rate, and I can citidal cruisers and rip DDs to shreds. I quickly sorted out it wasn't the ship that was hard to play it was the way I was using it that didn't work.

Same thing here its fast, good armor, low detection for its huge size, and can munuver, and people are trying to snipe with italians like they are IJN sniper bbs lol. Its like no no you got rethink this. This idea that one method works for all ships of the same class is crazy. Even with crusers some play more like dds, some more like bbs. And CVs jeeze each nation has its own clearly there idea of what they wanted their jobs to be when they place the contracts for both the cvs, and the aircraft to go on them. Yet here we all with people going "I want to play them the same as my other ships the same type!" Its like ok well the navy who put in the contracts for it defuantly didn't intend to have their ships focus on the same exact tactics as the rest of the world lol.

I mean great example the guns going over and under on bbs, USA was like "♥♥♥♥ yeah lets do it!" British went "wait wait you want a giant 305 or bigger gun barrel sitting a few feet above the hood of another gun, and you want people inside there working in it? Um we need to do some testing see if that is gonna screw up our crew that sounds literally insane to us!" And that is how a lot of stuff was especially precold war where people started trying to modernize and train together with other nations. Back then it was who ever was in charge going "hmm I know nothing of this, its brand new thing, ok so were gonna take my personal opinion on matter run with it till its proven right or wrong then change it decades later."

And that is still how some stuff still works no one wants a BB now, its about Destroyers or coastal defenses. Or hell in China's case they got an entire divison of miltary just for ballistic missiles wich they intended when created to use to keep navies away in place of actual navy they though just put a bunch of long range missiles all over and shoot them out of the ocean if they cross the sea border. Just like US has freaking Abrams fast designed to work in open valleys and desert. And Isreal has their MBT snub nosed designed to work in urban or rural areas, with crew set up abnormal so the engine block in front doubles as crew armor lol.

Each nation has its own brass who decide the doctrine they want to use, and they sign the checks to the ones who make the toys for them to use while they are in service.
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Date Posted: Aug 29, 2021 @ 12:08pm
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