the Depth charge explosion range is too big

[Sir Commandant]

I tried multiple times to escape this. it's extremly hard ... + when you go under 50 m with your submarine the damages are almost the same as if you were at 30 m

[Jackson]

I think the idea is that you have to get away and not allow the DD's to get too close. At least IRL once a sub was found, it was often toast. Depth charges can be set to any depth, so realistically damage would be greater the deeper you go - but they're trying to balance it. You can be sure there'll be more changes. This was just a test.

[Sir Commandant]

引用自 Jack：

but they're trying to balance it. You can be sure there'll be more changes. This was just a test.

oh good to know ! also we need more ways to get ride of the destroyers. Last game i was the last survivor against a Destroyer and another submarine. i couldn't do much besides firing torpedoes and avoiding his depth charges.... i wish i was able to surface and shoot him with a deck gun

[Dan_Silverwing]

引用自 Sir Commandant：

引用自 Jack：

but they're trying to balance it. You can be sure there'll be more changes. This was just a test.

oh good to know ! also we need more ways to get ride of the destroyers. Last game i was the last survivor against a Destroyer and another submarine. i couldn't do much besides firing torpedoes and avoiding his depth charges.... i wish i was able to surface and shoot him with a deck gun

Seriously?

[baddoggs]

引用自 Sir Commandant：

引用自 Jack：

but they're trying to balance it. You can be sure there'll be more changes. This was just a test.

oh good to know ! also we need more ways to get ride of the destroyers. Last game i was the last survivor against a Destroyer and another submarine. i couldn't do much besides firing torpedoes and avoiding his depth charges.... i wish i was able to surface and shoot him with a deck gun

Lol, i was hunting a sub couple of nights ago... Was just passing over him, dumping
my second set of charges and "up he pops, in my wake and drills me with his stern tube"...
from periscope depth... It was such a cool move it was impossible not to laugh and give
the dude a GG in chat...

[Hiei]

引用自 Sir Commandant：

引用自 Jack：

but they're trying to balance it. You can be sure there'll be more changes. This was just a test.

oh good to know ! also we need more ways to get ride of the destroyers. Last game i was the last survivor against a Destroyer and another submarine. i couldn't do much besides firing torpedoes and avoiding his depth charges.... i wish i was able to surface and shoot him with a deck gun

....That's kinda the point. Destroyers are supposed to be a threat, Seeing as how almost no one else can do anything (A few CLs have ASW gear) So while I do enjoy being a DD and dropping torps on SS, once the DDs are gone and maybe the CL's your team kinda just wins unless someone is really dumb

[Kazuma]

i shall refer to you a episode of mythbusters where they use explosives underwater and the kill range for those

[kingts]

I was depth charged while I was reading this....awww man

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Just do what all the cool kids do, go hover at 6.1m and go to 5.9m once depth charges are dropped around you.

There's a reason submarine battles are mostly bots, apart from the subs themselves...

[kingts]

引用自 whatdoesthisbuttondo?：

Just do what all the cool kids do, go hover at 6.1m and go to 5.9m once depth charges are dropped around you.

There's a reason submarine battles are mostly bots, apart from the subs themselves...

I did make a suggestion that both AUTO depths and manual depths need to be applied. The reason was to help handicapped players who find the control of manual too difficult.
They still have a lot of work to do with Subs in my opinion. They kind of place the player outside of the action formula in their own world and sort of disjoint feeling.
They did a marvelous job aesthetically. A lot of love in the work they put, but within the realm of the other 4 ship dynamic in the format they are asking. I can see resistance and issues if it all stays as is.

DD play- feels sorry for them really, to be asked to deal now another element and make that work even harder will deter DD play, not have players rushed to do it.
BB's-Either they add the squid mortar system, which appears on some of the ship hulls, to fire 1 range mortar within the circle you select for 3 times, 1 at a time. Then no reason to play BBs in sub matches, its just a disaster.
CV- not only can bomb, rocket, but should have a fourth plane option to depth charge position on the map as a full rotation mechanic. The CV player can lose offensive rotation in this choice, and this scout plane would only be able to drop one depth charge rotation with limited damage based on the detection status of the sub. It becomes undetected, then he guesses.

As far as subs I have expressed in detail what I think they need to improve this very dull mechanic in.....awww man depth charged again. frig

[murvihill6303]

The deeper a sub is the more pressure is against the hull and the less shock required to damage it, so the mechanic kind of makes sense. But then Anti-submarine warfare isn't as complicated in WOW as real life. I play destroyers in sub battles and haven't had any complaints about balance. The bots seem smarter than in coop games though.

[-reno-FR-]

引用自 Sir Commandant：

引用自 Jack：

but they're trying to balance it. You can be sure there'll be more changes. This was just a test.

oh good to know ! also we need more ways to get ride of the destroyers. Last game i was the last survivor against a Destroyer and another submarine. i couldn't do much besides firing torpedoes and avoiding his depth charges.... i wish i was able to surface and shoot him with a deck gun

Even with a deck gun, IRL you would have been vaporized by a Destroyer.
The main target for a submarine are big and slow ships.
Battleships.
Cruisers eventually.

But for Destroyers, you are definitively the PREY.

[Sir Commandant]

引用自 -reno-FR-：

But for Destroyers, you are definitively the PREY.

You're right ! but it is possible to fight them trust me i've destroyed multiple destroyers with the U-69. Destroyers are basically overconfident you just need to pop out when they're about depth charge you and fire your torpedoes at close range then you quickly submerge again and watch him explode :D

[AndVencovsky]

引用自 Dan_Silverwing：

引用自 Sir Commandant：

oh good to know ! also we need more ways to get ride of the destroyers. Last game i was the last survivor against a Destroyer and another submarine. i couldn't do much besides firing torpedoes and avoiding his depth charges.... i wish i was able to surface and shoot him with a deck gun

Seriously?

i dont get it? is this sarcasm? in real life pretty much all subs had one if not 2 small surface guns that were primarily used for taking civilian ships. ofc they were pretty useless against warships, but i could see them being useful against an already damaged destroyer. especially if you're one of the last people on your team and are trying to capture a point

[Dan_Silverwing]

引用自 AndVencovsky：

引用自 Dan_Silverwing：

Seriously?

i dont get it? is this sarcasm? in real life pretty much all subs had one if not 2 small surface guns that were primarily used for taking civilian ships. ofc they were pretty useless against warships, but i could see them being useful against an already damaged destroyer. especially if you're one of the last people on your team and are trying to capture a point

Do you want Realism, or do you want balance?

[kingts]

引用自 Dan_Silverwing：

引用自 AndVencovsky：

i dont get it? is this sarcasm? in real life pretty much all subs had one if not 2 small surface guns that were primarily used for taking civilian ships. ofc they were pretty useless against warships, but i could see them being useful against an already damaged destroyer. especially if you're one of the last people on your team and are trying to capture a point

Do you want Realism, or do you want balance?

I am not sure why Submarines with guns is a bad thing. That does not mean it effects balance. First, its defensive, and DD's already will be taxed with all they have to deal with. As I said above. DD play will be discouraged as they are overwhelmed by all the different types of mechanics in the game, from air cancer to crushing CA and faster DD gun play to now SUBS.

The reason subs would want guns is to take advantage of the 'illusionary' speed on the surface they possess. At the speed of most DDs, guns on a sub could give them an advantage in not only finishing off DDs -damaged or not in capping and prolonged escape capabilities. BUT not a huge issue w lack of damage potential. To me giving them a gun could actually be a detriment since if you are using them its counter productive to their strength. Stealth, because once lost, very difficult to regain. If they do add guns to subs, it will tested once again. We will see, but not a big deal to me to argue about.