Which premium ship tier is best for earning credits?

[Azrael]

I just recently returned to WoWS after a long pause and I like the game to kill some time during the Corona crisis, now I'm about to use up my gifted premium days I got for just returning to the game after a long pause and I'm contemplating about getting a premium ship so I don't have to buy Premium time constantly to make credits.

I've read many many many googled thread across different forums, however the concensus seemed to be that if you want to earn credits with a premium ship, it should be either Tier 7 or Tier 8, a few souls strayed out from this and suggested Tier 9 or even Tier 10.

Of cause with the tier increase the real money you gotta spend increases, so I'd like to stick to tier 7 or 8, BB's since they can do the most damage and stay longer in the fight.

Now two problems:

1) The threads I found were all old, the "youngest" was from somewhere in summer of 2019, so I don't know, how up to date the stuff is I've read there, since I was absent from WoWS for like one or two years.

2) What was common across all of them was a near equal share of people who believed, tier 7 would be the best to earn credits, others believed the same for tier 8. I simply don't know, who is more "right" in that regard, since with increase in tier you earn more credits, but service costs also climb up (although Premium ships are of cause better off here). So far I've always been a casual player, not focusing on one nation, thus my highest tier is tier 5, so I have no first hand experience.



What is your opinion on this questions as of March, soon April, 2020?

And since we're alrdy at it, any opinion on which BB would be the best in your opinion (Cruisers would also be ok, although I prefer BB's) is welcome :)

[Azrael]

To summarize a bit, because of long post, in Tier 8 I probably would leviate to either the Alabama or the Roma (if I let others shoot first for a while and if I don't get spotted first, in which case I'd have to immediately turn and run, but it can do that). In that regard the Vanguard would be a potential candidate too.

On Tier 7 BB's I'd probably go for the Duke of York due to high fire starting chance, having good armor protection atleast against AP, however if Cruisers don't get me, the vulnerability against HE can be somewhat ignored.
The Soviet Poltava would be slightly worse behind due to the bad citadel placement (but it seems to be better able to be angled and still being able to use all turrets in contrary to the Duke of York).

I always thought I'd leviate quasi naturally to German Battleships but they seem to be having problems with their guns atleast in the premium variant.
That would be okish, if the armor in return would be good alongside the citadel, but that doesn't seem to be the case for the Tirpitz and the same for the Tier 7 Scharnhorst.

Well there is probably a reason while the Royal Navy always was superior to the German one lol.

But maybe I'm on the lookout for the "Uber-BB", that just doesn't exist, dunno.

PS: Ashitaka on Tier 7 also doesn't seem like a bad choice too me, atleast according to what I can read on the Wiki. Plus it has this special camo, that also the Kii has, but overall is cheaper talking real world money.

So basically which tier fares better economically in general, speaking about Premium BB's, including regarding that you could get uptiered by two tiers. Tier 7 or Tier 8?

If I'd get a clear answer to that, if one is possible, I could atleast narrow it somewhat down and then make my choice.

[Rockstone]

If you are going to spend money, as far as I know, premium time is the best credit earning investment. Beyond that, as far as I know, tier-9 Jean Bart is the best money maker (with Missouri absent). If you have some 240k coal laying around (a little less with a coupon), JB is a coal ship for a few more days (until 8 april I think).

I do not have any preference for tier 8, but I do very well creditwise, in the tier-7 Sharnhorst. Though that was with the previous matchmaking, where tier-7 was generally top-tier.

[Azrael]

Postat inițial de Rockstone:

If you are going to spend money, as far as I know, premium time is the best credit earning investment. Beyond that, as far as I know, tier-9 Jean Bart is the best money maker (with Missouri absent). If you have some 240k coal laying around (a little less with a coupon), JB is a coal ship for a few more days (until 8 april I think).

I do not have any preference for tier 8, but I do very well creditwise, in the tier-7 Sharnhorst. Though that was with the previous matchmaking, where tier-7 was generally top-tier.

I don't have that much coal and won't get that much until 8th of April, never ever, except I get lucky with containers and then i need to be lucky multiple times :D

And in the shop this ship costs ~65€, a hefty price of cause (since it is Tier 9).

And is it really a moneymaker? It is tier 9 after all, so meaning higher service costs, even for premiums.

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Economy#Operating_Cost

I mean, if I would Invest into a Jean Bart instead of one of the Tier 8 Ships, We talk about roughly 20 € more to pay.
Should I go this far, I want to be damn sure, that this is a solid, rewarding investment.

[Rockstone]

Azrael... I think premium time is a better investment...

All I can give is my own experience... I do great in a JB, regulary 400k to 600k credits, my record stands at 864k. But it is variable and depends a lot on performance... I also have mediocre games, sub 300k.

Thats why I think a year premium time will, in the end, make you more credits... and will help you grind lines faster.

When I was short on credits: I had a tier-10 Conqueror. I bought the premium cammo (I think 5000 dubloons) and spend a month doing nothing but farming credits.

[Hiei]

Ok this has just made me want to play Kii.
I think you might be over thinking this but!
The ship you enjoy playing the most will be the one you make the most credits on.

[Surottoru]

Postat inițial de Azrael:

How can being uptiered as a 7 into a match with 9ers be less painful than being an 8 and uptiered into a match with Tier 10 Ships? You get outgunned in both cases (except you specifically buy a ship with high range) and are cannonfodder.

So do Tier 7 ships earn more netto than Tier 8 ships or how should I understand it?

I just find I don't get upteired as often in tier 7, or if I do there are only one or two tier 9 ships. Therefore getting more battles I can contribute better in and in turn earn more money and exp.

[Azrael]

I don't have a problem with grinding XP, I'm more worried about having high tiered ships at some point but no way to earn back income fast so they're affordable to play somewhat often.
After all, I guess we all grind the higher ships not only for looking at them sitting idle in the harbor, we wanna "take out the beasts" and not maybe like once in a week or so.

I remember this problem from back in WoT, where I managed to get a Tier 10 Heavy Soviet Tank and it ate up credits in maintenance.
Of cause back then (I don't know how it is today, maybe they changed it after all these years), there was no thing such as "flags" in WoWS to influence the credits earned and/or the maintenance cost after battle.
So back then I bought a Löwe Premium Heavy Tank, back then it was Tier 8 (if they haven't changed it it still is) and I never rued it, not only did it earn my credits reliably, it also was fun to play with it.

So I could in tandem play my Tier 10 Tank and afterwards, if I had bad luck, I just played a round with my Löwe and it was a net income after all, easy and that all without having bought premium. Since you can't get exactly the 24k doubloons but only 30k, you'd have to pay 100 € for a year premium.
I know I'm not going to constantly play all this time WoWS, at some point I'll jump into another game and play that for weeks, then maybe another and so on.
And after a year I'd have to pay again.

A Ship is a better investment imho, it stays as long as Wargaming exists and I doubt, that they have problems at all financially speaking, this game, along with it's brothers WoT and WoWP (and alongside the competition in form of Warthunder) is probably bound to stay and generate steady income just like other game classics.

And most importantly, I don't loose the economical advantage I've bought by not playing, I retain it.

[asdfas31]

massa for sure

[Jackson]

Someone said Massachusetts would get shot up badly right away? I don't find it that way. It's also the highest performing BB on NA at tier 8.

[Azrael]

Postat inițial de Jack:

Someone said Massachusetts would get shot up badly right away? I don't find it that way. It's also the highest performing BB on NA at tier 8.

According to wiki the Citadel of the Massachussetts is more exposed and it has a shorter range with the mainguns of only 18 km.

[Jackson]

Postat inițial de Azrael:

Postat inițial de Jack:

Someone said Massachusetts would get shot up badly right away? I don't find it that way. It's also the highest performing BB on NA at tier 8.

According to wiki the Citadel of the Massachussetts is more exposed and it has a shorter range with the mainguns of only 18 km.

And yet it's still the highest performing BB. Or at least approx died with Vlad.

https://na.wows-numbers.com/ship/3751753712,Massachusetts/

Often things on paper don't come out how they would seem.

[Azrael]

To let you guys know how I decided:

I got a coupon to save 25% on the doubloons cost of a premium ship up to Tier 8, so I purchased doubloons to get the Kii for only around 9K doubloons and purchased another, smaller load of dubloons to get more slots and the credit earner camo for it.

Wish me luck with that ship since solely by ship characteristics she wasn't my first choice, but well, we'll see ^^

[Azrael]

I gotta admit, Jack, the Kii really isn't as bad as it sounds in the wiki or in the (maybe outdated?) review from that guy from the NA forums, as long as you don't get focused and angle the ship, not showing broadsides, she can withstand some damage. Along with the Premium Kobayashi Camo, it is a good purchase and source of income, even without premium and without flags.

I got the same feeling as with the Löwe back then in WoT, I don't rue the purchase :)

[lennimaxx]

I would personally go with any premium that fits your playstyle. I like close-range BBs, so I went for the Georgia (T9 american BB). Tier 9 will get you more money, tier 8 is more forgiving. The most important part however is that it has to be a ship that you thoroughly enjoy playing and dont mind using for hours on end if you think about getting Tier 10 ships that cost 25 millon credits plus upgrades. Makes no sense getting a "better" ship that you don`t enjoy playing

[Jackson]

Postat inițial de Azrael:

I gotta admit, Jack, the Kii really isn't as bad as it sounds in the wiki or in the (maybe outdated?) review from that guy from the NA forums, as long as you don't get focused and angle the ship, not showing broadsides, she can withstand some damage. Along with the Premium Kobayashi Camo, it is a good purchase and source of income, even without premium and without flags.

I got the same feeling as with the Löwe back then in WoT, I don't rue the purchase :)

Glad you're liking it! I took it out yesterday after looking stuff up about it and taking those screenshots to show you. Got 130,000 damage in a tier 10 match and figured I'd just let it go at that and not ruin the streak LoL :) It's not a bad ship tho for sure.