Why are people saying CV sucks?

[Spycrab404]

I just want to know why people are saying that, Im always getting great games in them, but I dont get why everyone is saying they suck.
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[Jukseri]

The thing is, now it's neither fun nor balanced. That's a problem.

[Ryuu]

That's subjective. Tier 4 ships don't feel fun in general, i think.

[Spycrab404]

50K from Lexi, anyone know how she plays? and what type should I focus on? dive, rocket, or torpedo? I currently focus on torpedo with Ranger

[jcv5000]

Still, I think. The cv's player should receive a kind of small compensations to make more peoples to want to play them. Because, being real , at least 75% of the cv's players don't know how to play cv's since the changes. And, many of them have stopped playing cv's, because they don,t receives much for playing battles with them! And, I'm not a cv's player, and never even have tried one! But, maybee in a few months, I might start to try to play some cv battle myself. Now that I have received 2 free ones from the Air event missions. Why the cv's players should receive a kind of small compensations. Because, the cv's players are decreasing since the last few weeks. And, it is hard to have cv's players in missions or directives where they are needed! :)

[CRISTIANO RONALDO]

I'm doing great in my Shoukaku, and often get good with Ryujo.

CVs feel worse now because before rework, they were better, stronger and able to destroy other ships with even single squadron.

Too strong AA and the short spotting range (from planes!) in my opinion are the most annoying thing about CVs now. Otherwise, I often deal 50k-90k damage in my shoukaku.

Stupid teammates that except you to be everywhere at the same time and then call you noob for not being able to do that is also annoying, but I ignore them.

PS. AIRCRAFT CARRIER GANG is the BEST GANG.

[Spycrab404]

earlier today, I had someone say GTF off cv, you dont know what the hell you are doing, your not even covering any teammates with fighters, and here I am with 76K dmg as a bottem tier cv, and 110K spotting dmg. I wanted to see his reaction when he found out I top scored on our team by about 300xp

[CRISTIANO RONALDO]

I had similar situation today when I played shoukaku and teammate started calling me a noob for not constantly going to drop fighters over him...but in the end game screen I finished as the top XP earner of my team..

[Jackson]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spycrab:

I meant people who play them, I hear it all the time, people saying why are you playing cv? they are terrible, and this sucks, im done with cv. is it because they have the brain of a eggplant, and dont know how to use them?

Because they do suck. Have you tried T8 CV yet?

Sometimes you get exceptionally good battles. Mostly you don't. In general you can do more damage in any other class of ship tho. In most of my battles, CV's tend to be in the bottom half of the xp. They just suck right now. My opinion only of course :D

You may be better than the average and I can't fault your games at all, you did well :)

Also, were any of these battles T8? That makes a HUGE difference. If it could fight +1/-1 in carriers, they'd prob be fun. But being uptiered +2 totally ruins them to the point every time I'm tempted to just quit the battle (but can't of course).

[FindFixFlankFinish]

CV’s are still broken in many ways.
Tier IV is no fun in either Coop or Random battles.

Coop- not enough time to do any damage I do not do CV’s in Coop any more waste of my time.

In Random - You drop one silly torpedo each time and they do very little damage. Dive bombers not much better, rockets are my favorite in tier IV. I am trying to grind up the Hosho but until they fix it, I will go find another game to play.

Tier VI Not bad except if you get in a tier VIII match, that is work. Tier 6 matches I can hold my own in top 5 most of the time, not always but I do not feel bad. But a Tier 8 with a Tier VI it is suicide to send your planes in. And when a Tier 7 DD can destroy all you planes before I can see them we have a problem.


Tier VIII Lexington is a whole different problem. Why am I almost always in a tier X match. I do not want to be their. I almost always lose credits in the Lexington. I am deplaned in this match before I am halfway thru it. Even scouting for the team I am usually deplaned. Too many ships can spot me way before I see them and that is just not right. I cannot get this one upgraded to the best planes and I am not going to use up all my Free XP to get there because I do not enjoy it.

An SBD at 18,000 feet could see out about 30 miles according to the pilots that flew them. I have flown planes at 5,000 feet you can see a long way. Don’t tell me that the ships can see the planes and start shooting at them before I can spot them. Even with Radar on some of the ships they new the planes were coming in, but still had to spot them.

Also during WW2 when new planes came out, the carriers got the new planes, the old ones were flown to other bases or pushed over the side of the carrier. So if I have a tier VIII CV in a Tier X match I should be updated to better planes.

My favorite CV was the Bogue, I do miss it. I think that skipping every other tier has messed up this game.

[chaosbringer42]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spycrab:

50K from Lexi, anyone know how she plays? and what type should I focus on? dive, rocket, or torpedo? I currently focus on torpedo with Ranger

Dive bombers, they do by far the most damage, and are the most survivable planes (they actually get as many as 1 whole attack run vs high AA ships that tier or above). Torps are useful if the enemies waste repairs on fires (flood chance is low, but flooding still does adequate damage). Rockets are pretty bad, but vs DDs and CVs they can do pretty good damage if you hit well.

Also, the reason so many people are complaining is because the damage ceiling and floor for CVs is by far the lowest in the game by ANY class, it takes more effort to do things compared to ANY other class, and if you run up against some nasty AA ships they end up with far more xp than you just by shootdowns. Ive had a Cleveland of mine get 15k xp from shootdowns (115k plane damage) and only 40k damage with 55k spot damage. The Midway and Lexi I was eating alive got a whole 600/850xp with a win :D.

[spuddy]

Because most people that play them have no idea what they are actually doing and played them because you needed no skill what so ever before the update. Now they have been balanced people think they are trash.
When actually they just cant get cheap kills anymore and rage.

[RobBme]

Here is my 2 cents on cv's ... most people don't make it out of t4... why? because getting 1 to 300 xp base per game as a cv and needing 40,000 to get to t6 means hundreds of matches. t4 cv's very rarely get a kill due to absurdly low damage spending an entire game harassing one ship to whither it down to get the kill is hardly fun. AA is now stupidly hard detection range ridiculous low .. half the time your over a target before you detect it with your planes then your flying a huge half circle to line up a shot all the time taking aa fire watching your squadron dropping like flies, yeah cv is just not fun.

[Banzai]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von RobBme:

Here is my 2 cents on cv's ... most people don't make it out of t4... why? because getting 1 to 300 xp base per game as a cv and needing 40,000 to get to t6 means hundreds of matches. t4 cv's very rarely get a kill due to absurdly low damage spending an entire game harassing one ship to whither it down to get the kill is hardly fun. AA is now stupidly hard detection range ridiculous low .. half the time your over a target before you detect it with your planes then your flying a huge half circle to line up a shot all the time taking aa fire watching your squadron dropping like flies, yeah cv is just not fun.

AA at T4 is pretty much non-existent. Grind is harder since you are going from T4 to 6 in one go so obviously takes longer than it would to go from 4 to 5. Regardless, a decent CV player running a T4 carrier will do fine as evidenced by the fact that some people choose to stat pad down there in T4 CVs.

Regardless, please (pretty please) dont necro topics from 5yrs ago. It just creates confusion.

By all means start a new topic about all this. Thanks.

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