First fight

[vgifford]

What's up with this first fight outside the compound? My character has a 10 in Dexterity and a Sequence of 20, but no matter what the bad guys get the jump on me? What kind of BS is this?

[Dethlane]

It's intentional, gives story-wise explanation as for why PC, a rather experienced ATOM agent, is without any gear in the beginning. And theoretically it is possible to win this fight, but you need specific stats and even then it's rather hard.

[vgifford]

Then why give the player an idea that they can affect the outcome? Just do a cutscene of the PC getting mugged and don't delude the player into thinking they have a chance. As is, it may deter some beginning players into thinking the game is too difficult and not worth the effort.

[JasseBasse]

Originally posted by vgifford:

Then why give the player an idea that they can affect the outcome? Just do a cutscene of the PC getting mugged and don't delude the player into thinking they have a chance. As is, it may deter some beginning players into thinking the game is too difficult and not worth the effort.

Worry not mate, all is not lost or forgotten in russian wastelands. You will get your chance... ;)

[sorenthewild]

Originally it was possible to win the first fight.
However that made the player quite overpowered, so it was nerfed.

[Wildstar]

Yeah... This sort of deception (and bad writing) rubs me the wrong way. I mean for an "experienced agent" (of any sort) why is he sitting so far away from his rifle? I mean the full extent of my pseudo military training is "Boy Scouts" and I wouldn't do that. I mean, I haven't. And the most dangerous things I had to deal with were deer.

I understand the balance reasons, but come up with something other than a scenario that totally devalues the character. I mean I'd be cool with the powers that be taking all my crap except for the bare minimum before letting me outside. As it is now, I don't even want to play the game. My trained and armed character who was dumb enough to leave all of his gear out of arms reach and set up camp in a totally indefensible location and light a bright fire to attract all the local thugs to come kick his ass. For me, that's beyond immersion breaking.

If you had made it so that he found a case of vodka and drunk himself blind and woke up with all his stuff gone, I could believe that. Tricked by a prostitute? Sure, that's a classic.

I'm going to repeat myself. I don't want to play it any more. If they had one frustrating unwarranted and game balance justified asskicking and robbery for my character, why won't they have another one later on? You got my money, I won't let you take any more of my time.

[matt3960]

I followed this video step by step and was able to pull it off even though my chance to hit with burst fire was a bit lower than the person who made the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ft8z9QijkE

Note one of the comments about disabling the Melee Boost part of the Neutron mod if you are using it, that was 100% necessary for me. I did not modify the ability cost part.

My stats (I managed to get to level 2 in the tutorial):
STR 6/ END 7/ DEX 10/ INT 8/ ATT 10/ PER 6/ LUCK 1
Child Prodigy + Cursed Sniper
Automatic Firearms 53

And yes the leader died standing up just like in the video.