Mycelium Bunker

[AvivLobel]

how the hell i should pass this guys ! i fail every stats check , i killed on the 2nd turn . the atom guys just stayed in the front door

what am i supposed to do ?

[Zaris]

I'm stuck at the same point and made a threat about it. Only one answer which suggests to use explosives against them = fight them. To be honest i think this is just a game breaking bug at this point. There are ~12 guys from ATOM with endgame equip and ~7 guys from Mycelium with endgame equip but instead of fighting each other noting happens.

If you don't have the 3 stats which are suggested in the dialog you're quite doomed now. I'm also at the point to just edit my save file and test if it would be even possible to make these dialog checks.

The problem is only a few people are already there because the game was fully released some days ago.

[EzPaz(Niyaniya's dog)]

At this point you only way is to cheat a little and get your luck up to 10 and use the luck option in dialog.

Since that fight is basically end game battle and I was at Level 17 at 130+ HP, that guy with LMG basically just full burst me to death.

[beluga25]

Originally posted by Refas:

I'm stuck at the same point and made a threat about it. Only one answer which suggests to use explosives against them = fight them. To be honest i think this is just a game breaking bug at this point. There are ~12 guys from ATOM with endgame equip and ~7 guys from Mycelium with endgame equip but instead of fighting each other noting happens.

If you don't have the 3 stats which are suggested in the dialog you're quite doomed now. I'm also at the point to just edit my save file and test if it would be even possible to make these dialog checks.

The problem is only a few people are already there because the game was fully released some days ago.

what are the 3 stats? i'm fairly early in the game, just running around the map exploring/getting XP.
i could "cheat" by building up those 3 stats if i knew what they were, lol.

[AvivLobel]

STR , Luck , PER .

and yes u cant do nothing about this fight , a Turn base gunplay without a cover mechanic is a terrible decision .

what the dev expected ?just to stand in place and take bullets from 7 guys ?

[Zaris]

Originally posted by AvivLobel:

what the dev expected ?just to stand in place and take bullets from 7 guys ?

I guess its just a bug and the supposed way for this battle woud be something like:
- talk your way out with high enough stats like 10 luck, str, personality
- [missing] use environment to somehow dispose of them or get around them like turrets
- [missing] use landmines to clear them out (timed explosive are just crappy to use and grenades don't make nearly enough damage)
- [missing] inform the ATOM soldiers above to kill them or lure them out to the ATOM soldiers (like the attack on the mutant city)
- attack them but with the current equipment its just impossible (7 dmg treshhold + 40% reduction on 45hp against guys where most of them can burst you with easily 100-200dmg in the first round). This kind of choice would only be possible in Fallout 1,2 where the power armor soaked easily 60% dmg with a 18 pts treshhold + perks which increased dmg reduction further

[Starship Pooper]

Yepp, same problem. Tried for some time now but there is no way to win in a normal fight. One of them is basically able to oneshot me. Im lvl 19 with 106 hp. Sadly theres 7 of them. Tried to kill them with explosives but there is no way. Best i did so far was kill 2 enemies and reach combat round 3.
The most annoying is that the stupid ATOM dudes just chill above and all the other fights and enemies so far were just super easy compared to this one. Even the 2 Mycelium crews in the other bunkers were not really hard for me. But that. I couldnt win against 3 of them. No way against 7.

[beluga25]

???!?!?................AtomBoy, is this true?? How could u foul up a great game with such
a *&$#@ end-game? Did you use some of that pre-war vodka when u designed
this? oh well, happy Christmas anyway, but i hope u have this fixed by the time i get there cause i don"t really want to use the KillAll command to get through this.

[Mordegar]

I had Strenght 10 and passed the check only to see them attack me with full force like you would directly attack them, this is kinda unbalanced to be honest!
I somehow made it through it with a char with 119 hp/ballistic vest/ VER Rifle after about 15 reloads and nade spamming them, while i lost my endgame geared, automatic rifle wielding companions every----single---time!!!
As a old school RPG Player from the early 90's, i really do love a challenge, but a endgame fight where you basically can die in 1-2 rounds, if you don't crowd control the whole bunch with a lot of luck is totally unbalanced.
If you could intimidate some of their rookies away with that Strenght 10 check, lets say 3 guys, it would be doable and still be a very hard fight.

The game was great up to this point and i really enjoyed finishing it, but this fight made me kinda sick.

[Killeon]

I left the companions next to the elevator on hold and went in with a nade and a PKM. All the dialogues until I got the Strength option and then popped the nade, downing 2 or 3. Ran to the corner where I came from and gunned down pretty much anyone who came running up to me with the PKM's short burst. Only had to reload 2 or 3 times since my MC decided to miss half of the shots with 180 Automatic weapons skills. Was level 26 at that moment (grinded like a madman) and used the endurance drug, I almost got killed several times but who cares when you have 50+ super stimpacks.

[beluga25]

Originally posted by Killeon:

I left the companions next to the elevator on hold and went in with a nade and a PKM. All the dialogues until I got the Strength option and then popped the nade, downing 2 or 3. Ran to the corner where I came from and gunned down pretty much anyone who came running up to me with the PKM's short burst. Only had to reload 2 or 3 times since my MC decided to miss half of the shots with 180 Automatic weapons skills. Was level 26 at that moment (grinded like a madman) and used the endurance drug, I almost got killed several times but who cares when you have 50+ super stimpacks.

Well, Killeon, that sounds pretty creatively thought out, so maybe it CAN be done, lol??
I'm still pretty early on--don't even have any burst weapons/armor yet, but this is food for thought as I progress through the game.

[romusweb]

Same problem here. i have int/speech/sniper character and i dont see way to pass this part of game

[modern ragequit 2]

Same here, there's no way I'm winning this fight on the 1st floor with 4-1-10-10-9-8-2 build. I mean, I'm playing on normal difficulty as a total noob and this fight is kinda unbeatable for me?

Maybe with the better management of followers out of combat...I can't order them to engage without me.

[mindless]

Mb you're just not ready yet? Like stomping at lvl 10 with shty weaponary? It's almost very end and need to be hard O_O

[romusweb]

i have VER ,bulletproof vest 6B2, 77 health and 7 action points ( normal dif ). I can kill one guy instantly, other kill me and my companions in first round without problem . If i grind xp, then i will only have some more HP (3 per level ), they have 7x115HP and 7x very good guns with burst fire...

[AvivLobel]

i can tell you i was very geared , i kill the other 2 groups in the bunkers , and loot them , they got the same weapons , and even better ,

the fact is that one guy have LMG with 100 bullets in ready to burst you and u cant cover or dodge any bullet make the this fight unbeatable.