what is the better option with the snitch/ rat?

[a man and his harem]

kill him your self OR have the other person do it? BTW i already read the police mag in this office
or should i keep him alive, i still have a save, tho 4 hrs in on past, still workabul. i just did no know if its better to kill or not if theres any beafit to keeping him alive or having someone else kill him

[flushfire]

The old lady with violet scarf mentions her husband was killed by the bandits if you ask her during the investigation.

Obviously I'm the one who doesn't read well.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by flushfire:

The old lady with violet scarf mentions her husband was killed by the bandits if you ask her during the investigation.

Obviously I'm the one who doesn't read well.

Those from factory? I didn't remember.

It doesn't change that Dan doesn't want to get the fame that his mercenaries are killing people. It's why he wants murderer witness. Yes he is cold and bother only on the goal, but it's still for order, and for most. His goal isn't about making a gang but about bringing order.

[flushfire]

Look, that is not the point. The point is that Grishka's execution was a sensible move in Kovalev's part. And it was hardly unjust, as multiple deaths and hardship have resulted due to his snitching. Facts from the game.

By the way, did you also read what the sick bandit had to say about the situation with Otradnoye? He admits they never actually tried telling the villagers about the more dangerous threats, or that they really are protecting them. Your character even remarks they could have simply co-existed. Don't you realize? In the eyes of Otradnoye, the factory bandits ARE the threat.

Kovalev is only doing his best to prevent the death of the village, which as far as he, and the entire village is concerned is only being hastened by the bandits. It is stated by at least 3 people that the village is dying. Whether it is what happens in the game's ending is irrelevant. Kovalev is not fighting back in a misguided attempt at glory as you seem to think. There is nothing in the game that suggests this. Even the fisherman, who is against Kovalev, is only against him because in his eyes Kovalev lets the bandits do as they please.

There would be no Otradnoye in the first place if it weren't for Kovalev and co. Yan states the man built the village himself along with the first settlers. It's probable that another settlement would have appeared in it's place, but it would not be Otradnoye. Only understandable why the man does everything he can to keep the village alive.

Order isn't Dan's goal. It is a means to an end. He explicitly states that he is not doing what he is doing for anyone but himself.

[Dorok]

His motivation is only to mark the history, but he choose help bring order to all. Ok I won't argue more without to have transcript a series of quote. It's like I lie or read all wrong from your posts, and as I forgot a detail important, let say you won, Dan is an awful bandit that want kill everybody, and make the biggest bandits gang ever, even Death gang and mafia will be joke. Happy with that? :-)

[flushfire]

Yeah, nice strawman you have there.

"read all wrong" lol. You can check the game yourself. It doesn't take even 30 minutes to check everything I said.

[Dorok]

If what you are saying is based on villagers, this is a screwed up point of view, they don't even know Dan is saving them from a slavers attack.

My point of view isn't that superficial and will require erad and note along a full play and will require much more than 30mn, many comment are one time.

[sorenthewild]

Just tested this, I you don't kill Rat Kovalev and the guard with the straw hat will.
Kovalev will go get the guard, together they'll pick up Rat and go to the house with the basement.
They'll do some talking and the guard will kill him(Rat).

[a man and his harem]

Originally posted by sorenthewild:

Just tested this, I you don't kill Rat Kovalev and the guard with the straw hat will.
Kovalev will go get the guard, together they'll pick up Rat and go to the house with the basement.
They'll do some talking and the guard will kill him(Rat).

oddle enough i had a very hard time killing him.
i killed him just fine but when i returned to town everyone was trying to kill me. took me 5+ trys and still dont know why they where all trying to kill me. u would think the guards would already kkow what i was doing

[Dorok]

Killing rat close to abandoned house should not make the town aggro. It looks like a bug.

[a man and his harem]

Originally posted by Dorok:

Killing rat close to abandoned house should not make the town aggro. It looks like a bug.

it had to be after the many times and turning off game last time it seemed to work, but because i gone north before fighting to lightly grind. i like exploring. another sub, but i got m self to level 4 and i dont this just to get better weapons and armor so i just used my rusted pistol on him..

oddly enough atm points per AP is seems like the shiv is the best op knife u can have. all the others do only points more damage while costing far to many points early game... xD

[flushfire]

You can barter with one of the factory guards for a sharpened knife. That's the best melee has to offer early on. Shivs break too easily for some reason. Don't bother with melee, martial is superior.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by Zombiehunter220:

Originally posted by Dorok:

Killing rat close to abandoned house should not make the town aggro. It looks like a bug.

it had to be after the many times and turning off game last time it seemed to work, but because i gone north before fighting to lightly grind. i like exploring. another sub, but i got m self to level 4 and i dont this just to get better weapons and armor so i just used my rusted pistol on him..

oddly enough atm points per AP is seems like the shiv is the best op knife u can have. all the others do only points more damage while costing far to many points early game... xD

Yes if you don't have the start knife, or if you don't have the DLC knife and spend some skill points on Melee.

But the Knukleduster is a fair enough option, I prefer it instead of managing with broke chance, I mean without the start knife.

Without start knife it's probably better to use Martial, even without any skill point spend in it. Past first levels it's only for weak combats anyway or you choose develop Melee or Martial, but then Martial weapons choice seems widely superior.

[a man and his harem]

Originally posted by Dorok:

Originally posted by Zombiehunter220:

it had to be after the many times and turning off game last time it seemed to work, but because i gone north before fighting to lightly grind. i like exploring. another sub, but i got m self to level 4 and i dont this just to get better weapons and armor so i just used my rusted pistol on him..

oddly enough atm points per AP is seems like the shiv is the best op knife u can have. all the others do only points more damage while costing far to many points early game... xD

Yes if you don't have the start knife, or if you don't have the DLC knife and spend some skill points on Melee.

But the Knukleduster is a fair enough option, I prefer it instead of managing with broke chance, I mean without the start knife.

Without start knife it's probably better to use Martial, even without any skill point spend in it. Past first levels it's only for weak combats anyway or you choose develop Melee or Martial, but then Martial weapons choice seems widely superior.

sadist part is i never got my knife in the tent nor any other item i was ment to get. i did not pick the super hero only because i did not like the clothing. wearing the warmer clothing i felt wa a better option knowing how cold russa can get. and for RP it matched better even tho clothing means really nothing.. for looks..

i did buy the support pack, prob would of bought something else if able to just to support the game makers. i do feel this game feels like a better KS game then alot i seen and or supported at one time or another.. just sad to see not many people buy game

[flushfire]

Sales exceeded the dev's expectations as far as I know, although I think they weren't that high to begin with. Still, we know at least they sold well enough to warrant a major expansion of some sort.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by Zombiehunter220:

Originally posted by Dorok:

Yes if you don't have the start knife, or if you don't have the DLC knife and spend some skill points on Melee.

But the Knukleduster is a fair enough option, I prefer it instead of managing with broke chance, I mean without the start knife.

Without start knife it's probably better to use Martial, even without any skill point spend in it. Past first levels it's only for weak combats anyway or you choose develop Melee or Martial, but then Martial weapons choice seems widely superior.

sadist part is i never got my knife in the tent nor any other item i was ment to get. i did not pick the super hero only because i did not like the clothing. wearing the warmer clothing i felt wa a better option knowing how cold russa can get. and for RP it matched better even tho clothing means really nothing.. for looks..

i did buy the support pack, prob would of bought something else if able to just to support the game makers. i do feel this game feels like a better KS game then alot i seen and or supported at one time or another.. just sad to see not many people buy game

A player quoted you don't have the starting knife if you didn't pledge, the knife in DLC doesn't replace it because it will require invest some skill points in Melee. The knife DLC is perfect for Fidel because he is crap at Martial (too low DEX).

I don't know anything about the super hero thing. I always pick a woman character and to avoid her suffer from hot I give here the Action Hero costume. :-)