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So how powerful exactly are our heroes in the lore?
I knew fatshark said the greater daemons are out of their pay rank but how powerful exactly are they?
Last edited by CesareEscanor; Oct 20, 2019 @ 12:54pm
Originally posted by Kaelus Von Sestiaf:
There's a similar thread going on in reddit right now.

A simple way to look at it this is checking that kerillian, saltzpyre and sienna all can represent a hero unit from the tabletop (waystalker, witch hunter, bright wizard) with its appropiate hero level. You can argue that maybe they're a bit tougher than your average hero, too.
Then you keep in mind that kruber and bardin are about equal to those three in power, too, so just using the hero units as reference is good enough.

And hero units are quite exceptional. They can take on entire regiments on their own. But they're still not even close to the level of power of some of the most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ characters like Gotrek.

One thing that was pointed out in the thread that what makes them truly exceptional is the fact that they haven't gotten corrupted. They get hit by warpfire throwers, face chaos, get mutant blood all over themselves, walked through a warp gate twice and survived a point blank warp meteor explosion without even getting a little bit deformed. Something's up with that. Possibly a god intervening in their favor or -something- that is keeping them intact.
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Bakly Oct 17, 2019 @ 7:27am 
Not much, they're more powerful than regular soldiers, but for example Bardin cannot be compared to Gotrek (from books) eventhough he is (?) trollslayer as well
CesareEscanor Oct 17, 2019 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Bakly:
Not much, they're more powerful than regular soldiers, but for example Bardin cannot be compared to Gotrek (from books) eventhough he is (?) trollslayer as well
Yes I understand they are not comparable to legendary lords, but most of the thing in WH are not comparable to legendary lords
Medicles (Banned) Oct 17, 2019 @ 10:06am 
If we consider lore, then Salty and Sienna should count as heroes, because Witch Hunters and Wizards are not your common Foot Soldier. If we count the classes as lorefriendly, then Kerillian and Bardin are at least elites or veterans as Ironbreaker and Waystalker. Only Kruber seems to be a common soldier, but the other four should be able to fight against a greater demon as team.
O_T Oct 17, 2019 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by Medicles:
Kerillian and Bardin are at least elites or veterans as Ironbreaker and Waystalker. Only Kruber seems to be a common soldier

Kruber was a competent Seargeant with his own regiment and fighting against different kinds of enemys. I think we can say that he is more then a common soldier and he is a veteran.
Medicles (Banned) Oct 17, 2019 @ 7:26pm 
Originally posted by O_T:
Kruber was a competent Seargeant with his own regiment and fighting against different kinds of enemys. I think we can say that he is more then a common soldier and he is a veteran.

Being a simple sergeant is still far below an IB, Waystalker, Witch Hunter and Bright Wizard. Compared to the others, Kruber is indeed just a common soldier.
Moffin Bovin Oct 17, 2019 @ 9:21pm 
Originally posted by Medicles:
Kruber is indeed just a common soldier.

Judging by the amount of ♥♥♥♥ he has killed and survived, i wouldn't say that is true.

All the playable heroes seem to be special characters, or named heroes.
Medicles (Banned) Oct 17, 2019 @ 9:41pm 
Originally posted by MofineBovine:
Judging by the amount of ♥♥♥♥ he has killed and survived, i wouldn't say that is true.

All the playable heroes seem to be special characters, or named heroes.

Being in a group with someone who controls flames, someone who is specialised against chaotic beings, someone who has experienced warfare against skaven and most likely goblins/mabye orks and someone who is part of a race with the best snipers and being alive for a couple hundred years is certainly a reason of why he could kill what he killed and survive.
Moffin Bovin Oct 17, 2019 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by Medicles:
Originally posted by MofineBovine:
Judging by the amount of ♥♥♥♥ he has killed and survived, i wouldn't say that is true.

All the playable heroes seem to be special characters, or named heroes.

Being in a group with someone who controls flames, someone who is specialised against chaotic beings, someone who has experienced warfare against skaven and most likely goblins/mabye orks and someone who is part of a race with the best snipers and being alive for a couple hundred years is certainly a reason of why he could kill what he killed and survive.

Kruber is getting carried?
Angarvin Oct 17, 2019 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by MofineBovine:
Originally posted by Medicles:

Being in a group with someone who controls flames, someone who is specialised against chaotic beings, someone who has experienced warfare against skaven and most likely goblins/mabye orks and someone who is part of a race with the best snipers and being alive for a couple hundred years is certainly a reason of why he could kill what he killed and survive.

Kruber is getting carried?
he's the glue that holds it all together. the only dude who's friends with everyone
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
There's a similar thread going on in reddit right now.

A simple way to look at it this is checking that kerillian, saltzpyre and sienna all can represent a hero unit from the tabletop (waystalker, witch hunter, bright wizard) with its appropiate hero level. You can argue that maybe they're a bit tougher than your average hero, too.
Then you keep in mind that kruber and bardin are about equal to those three in power, too, so just using the hero units as reference is good enough.

And hero units are quite exceptional. They can take on entire regiments on their own. But they're still not even close to the level of power of some of the most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ characters like Gotrek.

One thing that was pointed out in the thread that what makes them truly exceptional is the fact that they haven't gotten corrupted. They get hit by warpfire throwers, face chaos, get mutant blood all over themselves, walked through a warp gate twice and survived a point blank warp meteor explosion without even getting a little bit deformed. Something's up with that. Possibly a god intervening in their favor or -something- that is keeping them intact.
Originally posted by Kaelus Von Sestiaf:
Something's up with that. Possibly a god intervening in their favor or -something- that is keeping them intact.

The power of friendship conquers all. :heartmm5: >:skaven:
Medicles (Banned) Oct 18, 2019 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by MofineBovine:
Kruber is getting carried?

Yes. I mean, the reason why he is part of the group was to support Salty in his quest of getting Sienna. Considering how dangerous a "free" wizard can be and the fact that the empire just sent one witch hunter would mean that they are somewhat on the same level. Kruber couldnt have done it alone, so he is obviously below Salty and Sienna and lorewise a simple human is always below a dwarf and an elf. Kruber is getting carried, but like someone else already said, he is still useful for moral and support.
CureAga Wine Oct 18, 2019 @ 10:40am 
I suppose 5 of them combined have the power level roughly equal that of a hero.
Hampton Wick Oct 18, 2019 @ 10:53am 
Kruber is a beast.
Show me a "common solider" like Kruber that is able to charge a chaos spawn, rat orge, troll, minotaur, and other monster with just his body and make them fly off a cliff.
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