The new map is cancer

[FRIENDLY MAN]

Most people in public lobbies cannot locate the shields corresponding to the symbols. This is the kind of tedious garbage one would expect in Destiny 2 which didn't allow public matchmaking for raids for a reason.

People can undo each others progress by randomly flipping the book, the corresponding shield locations are not obvious to the average person, so everyone just gets locked in the large arena as infinite gunrats spawn.

[Ballasiaga]

Originally posted by FRIENDLY MAN:

People can undo each others progress by randomly flipping the book

This part is the worst. I did a run yesterday where we fought for a significantly longer time for no reason because someone kept changing the pages. Didn't know who it was as I was constantly fighting hordes of elites but it was annoying to say the least.

I'm glad we can't just run around spamming the pages until it instantly locks to the right page but maybe make it so it locks after a few seconds if it's right so that people can't grief, intentional or not.

[Unknown Traveller]

What upsets me most (as a solo player) is the parkour to 2nd Grimoire and 2nd Tome.
It's an insanely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ design, where the slightest pixel mistake leads to falling into the abyss - death - and defeat of whole match.

[Andreas_Sturm]

Originally posted by Unknown Traveller:

What upsets me most (as a solo player) is the parkour to 2nd Grimoire and 2nd Tome.
It's an insanely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ design, where the slightest pixel mistake leads to falling into the abyss - death - and defeat of whole match.

Oh dear, I see they decided to make Tome and Grimoire collection even more aggravating than it already is 😄

[soso]

Its funny cuz it took me 10 secs on my first try solo to flip the pages corresponding to the shield. Then I did a random, all 4 of us ended up dying cuz people had no idea what to do/flipping the books. Kind of horrible design. You don't have enough time to cooardinate with endless hoards raining down on you.

[FL33TWOOD]

I wish FatShark would introduce a quick GIF preview of how to complete some key missions or activities (like in the map selection or an optional dedicated more info section) as to not overwhelm players. I see alot of YouTube views for some maps, guessing not everyone is trying to learn through regular gameplay. It's not like everyone is a dedicated fan and going to try to learn every nuance in a game. Some people just play this game for fun.

If someone undoes the books and they never finish the mission can be draining and question why bother playing the game.

[Carnifex]

The map is fine for the most part. Played it on Cata and there's one part where you're just swarmed by plague rats. That's part is just too insane.
I like that they added an element for the last part where people have to actually think for a change and not just spam click everything mindlessly. Just telling people to not touch the books and do it yourself is how i've done it since. But i guess just mindlessly clicking everything is what people want to do. Kill rats and think like one too.

[Pulkmees]

I did it with some random people yesterday. Haven't played for 1,5 years. Host was also returning after the same length of time. Rest were randoms. Took us 15-20 minutes to figure out where the hell the symbols were. Countless revs and deaths of course. Thank god no one flipped the pages. Kinda hard to type while all those specials are after you though.
Forgot to mention it was on Legend.

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by soso:

Its funny cuz it took me 10 secs on my first try solo to flip the pages corresponding to the shield. Then I did a random, all 4 of us ended up dying cuz people had no idea what to do/flipping the books. Kind of horrible design. You don't have enough time to cooardinate with endless hoards raining down on you.

Think its more that the symbols aren't easily described.
Its not like the doors in Convocation where you have 3 symbols that you can easily describe in a single word, so you end up finding them, then get caught up fighting the monsters and horde, and by that time you can't remember them so have to go hunting again, then hope people are doing it properly too.

[Buddy Christ]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Originally posted by soso:

Its funny cuz it took me 10 secs on my first try solo to flip the pages corresponding to the shield. Then I did a random, all 4 of us ended up dying cuz people had no idea what to do/flipping the books. Kind of horrible design. You don't have enough time to cooardinate with endless hoards raining down on you.

Think its more that the symbols aren't easily described.
Its not like the doors in Convocation where you have 3 symbols that you can easily describe in a single word, so you end up finding them, then get caught up fighting the monsters and horde, and by that time you can't remember them so have to go hunting again, then hope people are doing it properly too.

The 3 symbols I got when doing this new map was what I call "5" "15" and "Music note". My buddy quickly understood that.
But it was just the two of us and 2 bots so no people to F it up.

I wonder how many different symbols there are?

[76561199106106104]

i think a big problem is that the runes are on the shields you have to clean. because by the time you get there you've already cleaned 10 shields and assumed the shields you clean in this area are also just some throwaway bonus objective and not integral to figuring out the main quest

[soso]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Originally posted by soso:

Its funny cuz it took me 10 secs on my first try solo to flip the pages corresponding to the shield. Then I did a random, all 4 of us ended up dying cuz people had no idea what to do/flipping the books. Kind of horrible design. You don't have enough time to cooardinate with endless hoards raining down on you.

Think its more that the symbols aren't easily described.
Its not like the doors in Convocation where you have 3 symbols that you can easily describe in a single word, so you end up finding them, then get caught up fighting the monsters and horde, and by that time you can't remember them so have to go hunting again, then hope people are doing it properly too.

Yeah when I played solo in my head I was repeating "UTI, 15, V shaped thing"

But when I played with a party of 4 my brain was so frazzled and I wasn't the one who cleaned the shields so it was just a complete disaster

[THUG|DragoN]

When you realise ppl are kind of lost and dont know what to do a simple "let me take care of the books/pages" works everytime, 60% of the times.

[SpaceKhajiit]

Whatever the symbol on the shield you wipe clean ( behind each book along the wall), flip the page to the particular symbol for each said book respectively.

It wasn't off the bat obvious though. I like that its a puzzle but yeah heh I was confused at first.

[Knightingale]

Originally posted by FRIENDLY MAN:

Most people in public lobbies cannot locate the shields corresponding to the symbols. This is the kind of tedious garbage one would expect in Destiny 2 which didn't allow public matchmaking for raids for a reason.

People can undo each others progress by randomly flipping the book, the corresponding shield locations are not obvious to the average person, so everyone just gets locked in the large arena as infinite gunrats spawn.

Almost as bad as the switches in Tower of Treachery.
It's one of the few maps I think about leaving to start a new quick play.
When that starts happening and all players start throwing switches, locking out the end rooms, I definitely have no choice then and wasted half an hour of my day.

[Khern]

If the map is cancer because of the players, then it's not a map problem...