Warhammer: Vermintide 2

Warhammer: Vermintide 2

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did they finally remove kernel level anticheat?
Im not seeing the disclaimer about it on the store page, so I was wondering.
Last edited by Rjs90; Feb 20 @ 10:53am
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EAC is required on the official realm. Though I don't understand why people care that much.

Even your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mouse and headphones drivers have kernel level access and you still buy random peripherals from china.
Originally posted by Ing. Ithiridiel:
Even your mouse and headphones drivers have kernel level access
Sorry to hear that YOUR mouse had that - never used drivers for Plantronics .Audio 655 DSP and Defender mouse
Also, kernel level anticheat? People willing to give access to system core?
Originally posted by Princess Luna:
Originally posted by Ing. Ithiridiel:
Even your mouse and headphones drivers have kernel level access
Sorry to hear that YOUR mouse had that - never used drivers for Plantronics .Audio 655 DSP and Defender mouse

Yeah, your mouse does that too.
Originally posted by Princess Luna:
Originally posted by Ing. Ithiridiel:
Even your mouse and headphones drivers have kernel level access
Sorry to hear that YOUR mouse had that - never used drivers for Plantronics .Audio 655 DSP and Defender mouse
Your motherboard's ethernet (and wifi if present) drivers run on kernel level too.
Originally posted by Princess Luna:
Originally posted by Ing. Ithiridiel:
Even your mouse and headphones drivers have kernel level access
Sorry to hear that YOUR mouse had that - never used drivers for Plantronics .Audio 655 DSP and Defender mouse
Steam's mic and audio device services are kernel level too. Did you go out of your way to disable those too ?
Anything you plug into an USB port uses kernel level drivers, yet nobody cares. This outrage is way overblown. It kind of makes sense to be angry in cases like valorant where the kernel level service is running from the moment you power on your machine, because that is totally unnecessary. But most people who are mad about this are clueless about everything else in the operating system.

Much like the thing back when windows 7 stopped being supported by steam. "But win 7 muh data security" when the thing had multiple remote code execution and escalation of privilege CVEs. People just didn't care because they didn't even understand what security is.
Originally posted by Rjs90:
Im not seeing the disclaimer about it on the store page, so I was wondering.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i wanna control what OTHERS put on thier pc waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah no one agrees with me that kernel is bad waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

anything else?
Originally posted by Princess Luna:
Also, kernel level anticheat? People willing to give access to system core?
every anticheat is kernel level anticheat nowadays, aka, EVERY game where you can play with people ONLINE very likely has it
Reason being, cheat software has developed to hide that deep so it avoids being detected, so the logical conclusion is to also check there

So if you dont like it, stay with singleplayer games
Not that its really that much of a concern because we all download apps that ask for admin permission and they could be doing LITERALLY ANYTHING ON THE PC (just like kernel anticheat could). Yet nobody gives an frick about that
And since youre on steam, having downloaded steam, you have given steam admin permissions before as the steam download exe REQUIRES admin permission in order to work (like most exe's that download something for you do)
Every single app you have had the windows pop up for, you have given access to do whatever the hell it would want to do, the only difference from them and actual malware is that malware tries to do something bad

So what exactly is so bad about allowing drivers kernel level access when ducking steam was allowed that too?
If its the trust or something else (like it running once your pc boots up), I understand that, but if its solely cuz "it has kernel level access" then get that crap out of your mind or treat every app that asks for permission with the same approach
Rjs90 Feb 22 @ 6:13am 
I asked for "if they did or did not" and this unemployed "nasa scientists" throwing excrements to each other.
if you wanna argue with this go to reddit or twitter.
Rjs90 Feb 22 @ 6:19am 
If you want to answer with yes or no then you're welcome.
otherwise keep your basement opinions to yourself!
THANK YOU!
Rjs90 Feb 22 @ 6:20am 
I will close this topic as soon as I get some proper answer.
if a mod does it, will be splendid.
Originally posted by Rjs90:
Im not seeing the disclaimer about it ♥♥ the store page, so ♥ was wondering.
nope. steamdb shows EAC is in this game
I like turtles.
Unfortunate you have to deal with so many Techo-Weenies who seem to think their incoherent whinging and demanding everyone not giving a damn because they don't means anything to people. Thus is the internet these days sadly... They have not removed Kernel Level Anti-Cheat from the game, much to many people's dismay. They simply have managed to get the latest versions of EAC functional. Ergo: Yes, there remains Kernel Level Anti-Cheat/Anti-Tamper and the like installed because simply doing older methods of private groups/lobbies/servers where the player chooses what is or isn't there's just not an option to devs these days (Especially those with cosmetic stores where the community makes better) and the game itself has it's codebase tied up in it. Vermintide is unlikely to ever have an EAC free release officially, but the possibility always remains someone will crack it wide open and gut that with private hosting option for those willing to don the hat and get a better product out of it someday.
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