Necromancer ~ Army of the dead Talent sucks

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It has a nice idea behind it but its genuinely inferior in about 99% of situations. Barrow blades get their infinite cleave flaming attacks, Dread Seneschals get the charge and increase hp and damage.

The Army of the dead's only gimmick is giving you 6 more basic skeletons on a 20 second timer and any additional summons you can proc during this time deletes 6 skeletons while summoning another 12, effectively all it does is add 6 more skeletons and the only other thing is they don't block allied range attacks. Before the change to army of the dead it was objectively better because all it did was summon 6 more with no deletion on a 20 second timer. I should mention the bonus skeletons also aren't affected by the attack or defense command of the skull meaning you literally summon 6 worse skeletons.

The only thing I can think of to actually buff army of the dead is just double the amount of skeletons you have on the field to 12 with no timer and additional summoning refills the 12 if any are missing while summoning an additional 12 on a minute timer.

The worst part is this might not be good enough due to dreads and Barrow blade gimmicks being more useful practically 99% of the time.

[Red Sabre]

Maybe make a talent that only reanimates 3 much stronger beings like beastmen but that you can't command and just attack random enemies

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Originally posted by Red Sabre:

Maybe make a talent that only reanimates 3 much stronger beings like beastmen but that you can't command and just attack random enemies

Wouldnt be that good at all, less skeletons and it take a peak in Dreads gimmick of being stronger skeletons, besides losing the ability to command them would actively make them weaker than dreads just baseline

[The Hermit Gamer]

I think it's mainly for the utility in venting.

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Her scythe feels ok but the stuff soul grabs attack casting too long (its powerful for sure)... while other teammates with guns just one shot stealing kills from you. Overall fun class but not top tier.
Other than that i just hope army of the dead AI could be smarter and be able to save myself while an assassin rat on me( probably not gonna happen cuz this class would solo and its not the game core)

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Originally posted by Myth Cat ◥▶ ◀◤.:

Her scythe feels ok but the stuff soul grabs attack casting too long (its powerful for sure)... while other teammates with guns just one shot stealing kills from you. Overall fun class but not top tier.
Other than that i just hope army of the dead AI could be smarter and be able to save myself while an assassin rat on me( probably not gonna happen cuz this class would solo and its not the game core)

agree on scythe, its ok but I personally use the fire sword because its heavys all apply fire and any crits that happens are great thanks to another talent. The soulstealer staff is fine, it serves its purpose and is pretty good on monsters is long but you can only get like 3 charge shots out before almost exploding, if you dont use thermal Equalizer then its risky to pull 3 soul rips.

AotD AI is the same as the other skeletons, the only main issue is for me is that its effectively basic skeletons that are just terrible, so much so Id actually recommend playing Battlewizard or Pyromancer to level sienna to 30 just so you have a actually useful ultimate for Necromancer because base skeletons and army of the dead is just so bad. Also the attack and defence command doesnt affect the bonus skeletons summoned.

[Runvald]

Originally posted by The Hermit Gamer:

I think it's mainly for the utility in venting.

This.
Very usefull for barrel rats weekly for example, where you don't want to get close.
On demand fast venting.
Not useless at all.

[Slayer Slayerson]

It was perfect before, now it's so terrible.