It's time to buff the fking moon bow.

[Operator]

Seriously you nerfed it way WAY to hard.
you need to massively decrease it's recharge time, or give it a reload like the javelin or even the staff's cool down, that would make it even remotely viable
it hasn't been since it's nerf come on!

[Phantom Limb]

No, not really.

[Operator]

Oh or here is an idea I just had, getting melee kills gives you back an arrow! or helps charge it. that would be a really cool way of using it.

[Pink Eye]

I loved Peregrinaje's approach to Moonfire Bow: if you charge the bow for a bit by holding down aim it'll do a little explosion when you shoot it. Pere's a fun mod by the way.

[Operator]

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

I loved Peregrinaje's approach to Moonfire Bow: if you charge the bow for a bit by holding down aim it'll do a little explosion when you shoot it. Pere's a fun mod by the way.

Oh neat i will have to look up that mod. what's it called?

[Pink Eye]

Originally posted by Operator:

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

I loved Peregrinaje's approach to Moonfire Bow: if you charge the bow for a bit by holding down aim it'll do a little explosion when you shoot it. Pere's a fun mod by the way.

Oh neat i will have to look up that mod. what's it called?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2659684899&searchtext=pere

It's a great mod that focuses on fun - you get crazy boons, awesome chest rewards, shrine rewards that turn you into a god, etc.

[unterzod]

In my opinion, he is doing just fine. He may not be good enough for Versus or in deeds with increase special opponents, but it's still fair considering his infinite ammo. You can afford to shoot at trash and still not experience any issues in standard PVE. Occasionally, you might encounter a lack of charge, but that is solely your mistake, not a problem with the weapon.

[Operator]

Originally posted by unterzod:

In my opinion, he is doing just fine. He may not be good enough for Versus or in deeds with increase special opponents, but it's still fair considering his infinite ammo. You can afford to shoot at trash and still not experience any issues in standard PVE. Occasionally, you might encounter a lack of charge, but that is solely your mistake, not a problem with the weapon.

100% wrong, and that's okay, you can be wrong.

[Operator]

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

Originally posted by Operator:

Oh neat i will have to look up that mod. what's it called?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2659684899&searchtext=pere

It's a great mod that focuses on fun - you get crazy boons, awesome chest rewards, shrine rewards that turn you into a god, etc.

Sounds like moders know how to work the game better than the devs, awesome! I will check it out thank you.

[unterzod]

Originally posted by Operator:

Originally posted by unterzod:

In my opinion, he is doing just fine. He may not be good enough for Versus or in deeds with increase special opponents, but it's still fair considering his infinite ammo. You can afford to shoot at trash and still not experience any issues in standard PVE. Occasionally, you might encounter a lack of charge, but that is solely your mistake, not a problem with the weapon.

100% wrong, and that's okay, you can be wrong.

I don’t understand whether you agreed with me or argued by admitting that the problem was caused by errors. It is normal that mistakes lead to unsatisfactory results.

[Pink Eye]

All the nerf to moonfire bow did was dissuade me from ever using it again. Every time I use a moonfire bow I keep asking myself: this is basically a worse version of longbow, why am I using this (it doesn't even one tap on headshots). The reason why people are against nerfs in Vermintide 2 is precisely because it removes flavor from the game whilst forcing players into the pigeon hole stale meta that Fatshark ordains - which we've all been tired of since day 1. Nerfs by themselves aren't necessarily bad if they prop up niche things; but tell me, how exactly is the meta being shaken up when moonfire bow was effectively neutered.

[unterzod]

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

All the nerf to moonfire bow did was dissuade me from ever using it again. Every time I use a moonfire bow I keep asking myself: this is basically a worse version of longbow, why am I using this (it doesn't even one tap on headshots). The reason why people are against nerfs in Vermintide 2 is precisely because it removes flavor from the game whilst forcing players into the pigeon hole stale meta that Fatshark ordains - which we've all been tired of since day 1. Nerfs by themselves aren't necessarily bad if they prop up niche things; but tell me, how exactly is the meta being shaken up when moonfire bow was effectively neutered.

Maybe we are talking about different difficulty levels, but I really don't see any reason to make the longbow more preferable In standard game.

Apart from the Waystalker, all my elves are equipped with the moon bow and I feel extremely comfortable with it. I don't have to aim for heads to return the projectile or worry about them at all. I don't have to constantly be distracted by reloading like with the Javelin.

It's a very comfortable weapon, the only requirement for which is to set priorities correctly. If there's something that irritates me about him that annoys me is when an ally finishes off a special enemy who is already under my DOT, but this is already a problem of my ego.

[NekousagiKorouYTttv]

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

I loved Peregrinaje's approach to Moonfire Bow: if you charge the bow for a bit by holding down aim it'll do a little explosion when you shoot it. Pere's a fun mod by the way.

That's not modded, that's how it was in the base game and they removed it for no reason

[unterzod]

Originally posted by NekousagiKorouYTttv:

Originally posted by Pink Eye:

I loved Peregrinaje's approach to Moonfire Bow: if you charge the bow for a bit by holding down aim it'll do a little explosion when you shoot it. Pere's a fun mod by the way.

That's not modded, that's how it was in the base game and they removed it for no reason

Hah, nope. The reason was significant, especially compared to the then SotT. But he was too strong even without her

[Operator]

There are PLENTY of other still stronger weapons that never got nerfed, they just nerfed it into the ground for no other reason than people complained in a PVE game.

[Pink Eye]

Originally posted by NekousagiKorouYTttv:

That's not modded, that's how it was in the base game and they removed it for no reason

That's really lame. The little explosion is awesome, it also takes some risk to do because the charge up can leave you vulnerable.