Engineer needs a nerf badly

[NekousagiKorouYTttv]

You outpowercreeped Ranger Veteran, impressive.

[big100]

The only thing that he is strong now is with bombs but all other stuff on him for me feels
as bad as before the update and the bombs help him with that he can spam them but i think
he still bad in all the more important situations tho i was always bad with him lol

[Squeakers]

wow my fav class got buffed to kingdom come? Intentionally or not? I reinstalled the game for the wolf father's givings, and i log in and i noticed OE has a belegar skin which i really like, so i was considering replaying, but at the same time i want the game to be fun for everyone. What happened?

[Toltage]

Originally posted by Squeakers:

What happened?

People are screaming because now OE can get a bomb every 80 seconds and bombs have no FF damage with the effects of both types. Personally I find it kind of fun being a bomb dispenser for the group, but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets nipped in the bud at some point.

[Истина]

Well, he still need some protection in melee combat, has a desent damage against BOSS, and real great when fighting hords.
I think he don`t need to, badly, nerf. Wizzard needs a nerf (since have bug).Maybe its best to buff others to his level, have some specials when in cooperation.

[Squeakers]

Originally posted by Toltage:

Originally posted by Squeakers:

What happened?

People are screaming because now OE can get a bomb every 80 seconds and bombs have no FF damage with the effects of both types. Personally I find it kind of fun being a bomb dispenser for the group, but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets nipped in the bud at some point.

is this like a new skill in his level tree?

[Pulkmees]

Did any of you actually play him ?
He has bomb talents. But they also nerfed his rate of fire, so if you decide to go without the bombs, you're pretty screwed. Takes ages to rev up and when it does, its still slow.

I guess they wanted people to choose Linked Compression Chamber for once instead of going 50 % longer and specials extend it. Sadly that 50% longer is what makes it actually useful. Instead of 4 seconds of killing 5 rats, you could have killed with your melee.

Or maybe the idea is that Innovative Ammo Hoppers is for boss damage. But then you are still SUPER vulnerable while shooting.

[NekousagiKorouYTttv]

Originally posted by Tsar`s cannonfodder:

Well, he still need some protection in melee combat, has a desent damage against BOSS, and real great when fighting hords.
I think he don`t need to, badly, nerf. Wizzard needs a nerf (since have bug).Maybe its best to buff others to his level, have some specials when in cooperation.

He doesn't need melee protection anymore, you can shoot trollpedo or throw bombs at your feet to kill the horde near you. It's actually the most effective way to play him now it's nuts. They turned him into a jihad member. Meanwhile the minigun has infinite ammo at the cost of 3-10 hp (you get 15hp per swing with stagger thp), and it also melts bosses faster than pistol and torpedo. Very impressive balancing.

[st0rp0teten]

Yeah,wonder who was the troll at Fatshark who thought Engi was "balanced" after the patch??

[Mörkö]

Originally posted by st0rp0teten:

Yeah,wonder who was the troll at Fatshark who thought Engi was "balanced" after the patch??

Same dude that did Lingering Flames?

OE is a better bomber than RV now. Which suits him fine, but RV is kinda obsolete now? Except for the unlimited ammo MWP shenanigans.

Also the Trollpedo should not be affected by the no FF change.

[Истина]

Originally posted by NekousagiKorouYTttv:

Originally posted by Tsar`s cannonfodder:

Well, he still need some protection in melee combat, has a desent damage against BOSS, and real great when fighting hords.
I think he don`t need to, badly, nerf. Wizzard needs a nerf (since have bug).Maybe its best to buff others to his level, have some specials when in cooperation.

He doesn't need melee protection anymore, you can shoot trollpedo or throw bombs at your feet to kill the horde near you. It's actually the most effective way to play him now it's nuts. They turned him into a jihad member. Meanwhile the minigun has infinite ammo at the cost of 3-10 hp (you get 15hp per swing with stagger thp), and it also melts bosses faster than pistol and torpedo. Very impressive balancing.

Maybe you are right.

[VisionofFire]

Originally posted by Pulkmees:

Did any of you actually play him ?

I mean, did you actually play him? New talent that refills bar on overcrank means 50% more bar isn't required at all, 4 seconds you can refill your whole bar which is stupid. And you don't need a full refill most times, single overcrank guarantees you can shoot at elites or special. Overcrank is also super busted right now, granting +45% crit. LCC was taken prior to this patch if you wanted to use your crankgun more like a secondary weapon, whip it out only for elites. As per patch notes, 15% crit per stack on Overclock is a mistake though, and it's apparently supposed to be 5% per stack. Given the previous patch note said 10% and was wrong though, I'm not sure I trust them.

Agree that LCC severely outperforms Hoppers now. I think the balancing intention was they wanted us to take Full Head of Steam 15% attack speed to counterbalance the slowdown to base rate for Crankgun. But Overcrank is so much better than Full Head right now, there's no point to.

[Dixu]

Originally posted by Tsar`s cannonfodder:

Well, he still need some protection in melee combat

*throws one bomb at his feet*
what melee combat?

[Dimmyzor]

Originally posted by NekousagiKorouYTttv:

You outpowercreeped Ranger Veteran, impressive.

I tried both the bomber build and the melee/+power build.. Line 1 left, 2,3,4 right, 5 left and last line whatever, went with right.. I just meleed the entire map with coghammer and pistol is insane, togethe with a WP, you can unload 2 mags on a monster and kill it, Ulti is no longer required, just keep the 5stacks up for the 20% power buff.. I agree, he seems a bit too much now, the 3bombs start didnt work for me tho, seems bugged for now.

[FraerFox]

So now that the elf's weapons has been destroyed, they have found a new target to whine...

[Dixu]

Originally posted by Dimmyzor:

Originally posted by NekousagiKorouYTttv:

You outpowercreeped Ranger Veteran, impressive.

2 mags on a monster and kill it

do you play on veteran or something? on cata 2 mags will deal ~30% of rogre's healthbar at best