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Its worth it having 90% block reduction on Handmaiden?
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Chizakura Jun 3, 2023 @ 4:52pm 
It will let experiment with builds like dual dagger handmaiden more easily.
O_T Jun 3, 2023 @ 5:47pm 
Isn't it calculated different? Isn't it anything like damage-30%-30%-30%?
Last edited by O_T; Jun 3, 2023 @ 5:49pm
Ing. Ithiridiel Jun 4, 2023 @ 12:14am 
Originally posted by O_T:
Isn't it calculated different? Isn't it anything like damage-30%-30%-30%?
i think it is additive
Ardariel Jun 4, 2023 @ 12:29am 
Originally posted by O_T:
Isn't it calculated different? Isn't it anything like damage-30%-30%-30%?
Not sure what you trying to say here. Cause from what you wrote it does not seem to diiffer, from what op is asking.

Nevertheless, BCR is additive and yes, 90% BCR totaly worth it. It let you use any weapon and thrive.
You can also reach 110% BCR, letting you block CW overhead with backside even with dual daggers. It would require you to play with FK and his 20% BCR aura. Very underestimated talent indeed, since it gives your teammates option to have 80% BCR.
GreyHound Jun 4, 2023 @ 12:33am 
Just to clear up - Block cost reduction (aka BCR) is additive, it reduces the stamina cost of blocking attacks with weapons; damage reduction is multiplicative. Stacking BCR is quite valuable on Legend/Cataclysm, so yes, 90% is very nice for Shield-maiden or weapons with low base stamina like dual daggers.
Dr. Sinclair Jun 4, 2023 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by GreyHound:
Just to clear up - Block cost reduction (aka BCR) is additive, it reduces the stamina cost of blocking attacks with weapons; damage reduction is multiplicative. Stacking BCR is quite valuable on Legend/Cataclysm, so yes, 90% is very nice for Shield-maiden or weapons with low base stamina like dual daggers.
worth noting unchained sienna is an exception to this.
Ardariel Jun 4, 2023 @ 1:18am 
Originally posted by Dr. Sinclair:
Originally posted by GreyHound:
Just to clear up - Block cost reduction (aka BCR) is additive, it reduces the stamina cost of blocking attacks with weapons; damage reduction is multiplicative. Stacking BCR is quite valuable on Legend/Cataclysm, so yes, 90% is very nice for Shield-maiden or weapons with low base stamina like dual daggers.
worth noting unchained sienna is an exception to this.
In which capacity?
VisionofFire Jun 4, 2023 @ 1:24am 
Originally posted by Ardariel:
In which capacity?

Pretty sure they're referring to Unchained Dissipate's -50% BCR not being additive with BCR from most other sources, it's applied after regular BCR calculation.
Last edited by VisionofFire; Jun 4, 2023 @ 1:24am
Ardariel Jun 4, 2023 @ 1:27am 
Originally posted by Deadeye Flint:
Originally posted by Ardariel:
In which capacity?

Pretty sure they're referring to Unchained Dissipate's -50% BCR not being additive with BCR from most other sources, it's applied after regular BCR calculation.
I even forgot about it. Typically i used that to remove overheat more than anything XD

Also isnt it used to be, that BCR scales wwith overheat?
Emilia Tempest Jun 4, 2023 @ 9:06am 
Originally posted by Ardariel:
Originally posted by Deadeye Flint:

Pretty sure they're referring to Unchained Dissipate's -50% BCR not being additive with BCR from most other sources, it's applied after regular BCR calculation.
I even forgot about it. Typically i used that to remove overheat more than anything XD

Also isnt it used to be, that BCR scales wwith overheat?
I tested this and Dissipate's doesnt additively stack with BCR from your weapon and necklace.
at 99% overhead, I should be either not taking any stamina damage or gain stamina (as 30+30+50 = 110), but I lose half a stamina (well, the shield breaks from being hit by one attack of an rat ogre)

With handmaiden you do gain stamina if hit on 110% BCR (60 gear, 30 talent, 20 footknight talent).

Weird, very weird
Dr. Sinclair Jun 5, 2023 @ 12:38am 
Originally posted by Benny:
Originally posted by Ardariel:
Not sure what you trying to say here. Cause from what you wrote it does not seem to diiffer, from what op is asking.

Nevertheless, BCR is additive and yes, 90% BCR totaly worth it. It let you use any weapon and thrive.
You can also reach 110% BCR, letting you block CW overhead with backside even with dual daggers. It would require you to play with FK and his 20% BCR aura. Very underestimated talent indeed, since it gives your teammates option to have 80% BCR.

How would you get it to 110? At most i can see it go to 80 (60 for necklace/weapon + 20 aura).
Handmaiden
60% from gear 30% from handmaiden stuff 20% from foot knight aura
Benny Jun 5, 2023 @ 12:43am 
Originally posted by Dr. Sinclair:
Originally posted by Benny:

How would you get it to 110? At most i can see it go to 80 (60 for necklace/weapon + 20 aura).
Handmaiden
60% from gear 30% from handmaiden stuff 20% from foot knight aura

Thanks, i misread. I thought he meant FK itself.
Last edited by Benny; Jun 5, 2023 @ 12:43am
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